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From: Woody on 10 Jul 2010 08:58 R <me32(a)privacy.net> wrote: > Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote: > > > The iPad is way simpler than the complicated computer counterpart, in > > pretty well every way. > > The iPad itself may be simpler. But does that imply that using it is > simpler? Yes. > Might I ask, how does one open a single document by different apps? in general, although there are sharing things I have heard about, I have never had to so I can't answer. > On my desktop Mac I just right click and then "Open With >" to choose > the app. Or I drag the document over the app icon. Is it as simple as > that on an iPad? > > That's a genuine (i.e., not rhetorical) question, btw. No, that doesn't work. As I have said, there are tools to do it, but I have never been in the situation of wanting to do it, dispite using my iPad every day since I got it (the day before UK release). If you try and replicate your workflow that you use on windows or OSX, you will find that it is much harder to use than either. But it isn't a desktop, it is different. -- Woody www.alienrat.com
From: SM on 11 Jul 2010 07:17 ray <datasmog(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > SM <info(a)that.sundog.co.uk> wrote: > > > > The other issue I have with it, and one I have an open bug report for, > > > is the voice prompt telling me to turn right when the map is showing a > > > left turn. Or vice verse. The map is correct. > > > It doesn't happen often, I've seen it maybe half a dozen times in the > > > month or so I've been using the app over several hundred miles. > > > > I've seen (and heard) that once but it was on a turning which I was > > familiar with anyway. > > ALK have come back asking for details of the trip on which I encountered > the problem. I don't think I can do that as I have lost all previous > trip details due to reinstalling the app. > I'm driving down to London at the weekend over a route I know well, I'll > keep it running for the trip to see if it misbehaves. An odd thing I've noticed is it doesn't seem to be working with the iPhone's GPS - just gets stuck on Determining Current Position. Works fine in the TomTom cradle. Stuart -- cut that out to reply
From: ray on 12 Jul 2010 04:08 SM <info(a)that.sundog.co.uk> wrote: > ray <datasmog(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > SM <info(a)that.sundog.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > > The other issue I have with it, and one I have an open bug report for, > > > > is the voice prompt telling me to turn right when the map is showing a > > > > left turn. Or vice verse. The map is correct. > > > > It doesn't happen often, I've seen it maybe half a dozen times in the > > > > month or so I've been using the app over several hundred miles. > > > > > > I've seen (and heard) that once but it was on a turning which I was > > > familiar with anyway. > > > > ALK have come back asking for details of the trip on which I encountered > > the problem. I don't think I can do that as I have lost all previous > > trip details due to reinstalling the app. > > I'm driving down to London at the weekend over a route I know well, I'll > > keep it running for the trip to see if it misbehaves. > > An odd thing I've noticed is it doesn't seem to be working with the > iPhone's GPS - just gets stuck on Determining Current Position. Works > fine in the TomTom cradle. > I think it depends on where you position it in the car, the iPhone GPS receptor, or whatever it is, isn't as receptive as some of the dedicated units. But I find the phone gets a proper GPS fix a whole lot faster than the old TomTom receiver and the Navman I once I had. On the 120 mile run down to London yesterday it lost GPS several times showing that same message, but quickly picked up again. The phone sits in a conveniently iPhone sized depression in front of the gear selector in my Shogun, so quite low down in the car. It didn't make any errrors in routing so I still have nothing to send to ALK. -- http://www.dream-weaver.com/email.php Web development promotion and seo http://www.spaldingcomputers.co.uk http://www.overseasmovingsolutions.com/
From: zoara on 12 Jul 2010 06:54 ray <datasmog(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > SM <info(a)that.sundog.co.uk> wrote: >> An odd thing I've noticed is it doesn't seem to be working with the >> iPhone's GPS - just gets stuck on Determining Current Position. Works >> fine in the TomTom cradle. >> > I think it depends on where you position it in the car, the iPhone GPS > receptor, or whatever it is, isn't as receptive as some of the > dedicated > units. The iPhone 3GS and the iPhone 4 both use GPS chips which are used in a number of dedicated units, eg those from TomTom. I can't remember exactly (I can look it up later if you want, I have it in an email) - broadcom and infineon ring a bell, but I can't remember which is in the 4 and which in the 3GS. The iPhone 4 uses a different, newer chip than the 3GS. I have found the accuracy of the iPhone (at least, the 3G) to be poorer than a dedicated unit - haven't worked out why yet. Poorer aerial? Apple deliberately giving less power to the GPS chip to save battery? Something else? > But I find the phone gets a proper GPS fix a whole lot faster than the > old TomTom receiver and the Navman I once I had. That'll be the A-GPS at work. Dedicated satnavs have to download the satellite positions from the satellites (ie over the GPS link) before it can start working out positions, whereas the iPhone just downloads the positions over the Internet, which is far, far faster. Also, it will use wifi positioning (even quicker as - I believe - the location database is stored locally) while it waits for the GPS data and fix. > On the 120 mile run down to London yesterday it lost GPS several times > showing that same message, but quickly picked up again. Loss of GPS signal is frustratingly common on my 3G. It sits in a car cradle attached to the windscreen. -z- -- email: nettid1 at fastmail dot fm
From: David Empson on 12 Jul 2010 07:09
zoara <me18(a)privacy.net> wrote: > ray <datasmog(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > SM <info(a)that.sundog.co.uk> wrote: > > >> An odd thing I've noticed is it doesn't seem to be working with the > >> iPhone's GPS - just gets stuck on Determining Current Position. Works > >> fine in the TomTom cradle. > >> > > I think it depends on where you position it in the car, the iPhone GPS > > receptor, or whatever it is, isn't as receptive as some of the > > dedicated > > units. > > The iPhone 3GS and the iPhone 4 both use GPS chips which are used in a > number of dedicated units, eg those from TomTom. I can't remember > exactly (I can look it up later if you want, I have it in an email) - > broadcom and infineon ring a bell, but I can't remember which is in the > 4 and which in the 3GS. The iPhone 4 uses a different, newer chip than > the 3GS. > > I have found the accuracy of the iPhone (at least, the 3G) to be poorer > than a dedicated unit - haven't worked out why yet. Poorer aerial? Apple > deliberately giving less power to the GPS chip to save battery? > Something else? > > > > But I find the phone gets a proper GPS fix a whole lot faster than the > > old TomTom receiver and the Navman I once I had. > > That'll be the A-GPS at work. Dedicated satnavs have to download the > satellite positions from the satellites (ie over the GPS link) before it > can start working out positions, whereas the iPhone just downloads the > positions over the Internet, which is far, far faster. > > Also, it will use wifi positioning (even quicker as - I believe - the > location database is stored locally) while it waits for the GPS data and > fix. Judging from what Maps shows me on the 3GS, it gets an initial fix from the active cellphone tower (presumably it knows where it is), then uses GPS to narrow down its position. WiFi would give it more information but I usually have that turned off. -- David Empson dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz |