From: T i m on
On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 00:13:08 +0000, Phil Taylor <nothere(a)all.invalid>
wrote:

>In article <goo7q59e4fmf43favis3cmnliaqn0j8k2q(a)4ax.com>, T i m
><news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:48:15 +0000, Phil Taylor <nothere(a)all.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>> > Last year
>> >I built a boat, using Lloyds-certified marine plywood.
>>
>> That sounds interesting. What did you build may I ask?
>
>Just a two-man kayak,

Not *just* a two-man kayak ...

> but I never built a boat before, and it was fun.

I bet and the project that keeps on giving. [1]
>
>Picture here: <http://www.barfly.dial.pipex.com/Widget.jpg>

Very nice. Stitch and tape? That double chine design should make her
fairly forgiving as well?
>
Also what length is she pleas (can't really tell from that angle).

I have a 16' glass double I built (well, 'assembled' from untrimmed
moldings) a couple of years after the pram.

I also still have the ultra light paddle I built for my step daughter
when we got the 16' poly Canadian. She's now 30 and I still can't part
with the paddle!

Cheers, T i m

[1] Making your own furniture is nice but you can't have as much fun
with it as you can a boat. ;-)
From: Phil Taylor on
In article <ge88q5p3lid3l957oohii277bh619pi7ul(a)4ax.com>, T i m
<news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote:

> On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 00:13:08 +0000, Phil Taylor <nothere(a)all.invalid>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <goo7q59e4fmf43favis3cmnliaqn0j8k2q(a)4ax.com>, T i m
> ><news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:48:15 +0000, Phil Taylor <nothere(a)all.invalid>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> <snip>
> >> > Last year
> >> >I built a boat, using Lloyds-certified marine plywood.
> >>
> >> That sounds interesting. What did you build may I ask?
> >
> >Just a two-man kayak,
>
> Not *just* a two-man kayak ...
>
> > but I never built a boat before, and it was fun.
>
> I bet and the project that keeps on giving. [1]
> >
> >Picture here: <http://www.barfly.dial.pipex.com/Widget.jpg>
>
> Very nice. Stitch and tape? That double chine design should make her
> fairly forgiving as well?
> >
> Also what length is she pleas (can't really tell from that angle).

Sixteen and a half feet, 33" beam. Stitch and glue, taped on the
inside and covered with epoxy fibreglass on the outside.
>
> I have a 16' glass double I built (well, 'assembled' from untrimmed
> moldings) a couple of years after the pram.
>
> I also still have the ultra light paddle I built for my step daughter
> when we got the 16' poly Canadian. She's now 30 and I still can't part
> with the paddle!

Yeah, I enjoyed making paddles too. Blades are laminated from birch
veneer, pressed into a mould, with shafts turned from red hemlock.

>
> Cheers, T i m
>
> [1] Making your own furniture is nice but you can't have as much fun
> with it as you can a boat. ;-)

Yes, I'm going to take her on a camping trip soon, up Loch Morar.

Phil Taylor
From: T i m on
On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 02:16:38 +0000, Phil Taylor <nothere(a)all.invalid>
wrote:


>> >Picture here: <http://www.barfly.dial.pipex.com/Widget.jpg>
>>
>> >
>> Also what length is she pleas (can't really tell from that angle).
>
>Sixteen and a half feet, 33" beam. Stitch and glue, taped on the
>inside and covered with epoxy fibreglass on the outside.

Thanks.

I also like that nice little coaming round the cockpit, good for
keeping a bit of water out of her. I also prefer the single open
cockpit, especially for gentle touring. Mine is a true double and
whilst that's handy for spray decks it makes it more claustrophobic.
Also not so easy to swap roles in the middle of the water (although we
have done). I had a canvas double like yours and whilst is was no
where near as durable as glass or ply it was pretty light and as with
camping, fun to think the elements are less than 1mm away. ;-)
>>
>> I have a 16' glass double I built (well, 'assembled' from untrimmed
>> moldings) a couple of years after the pram.
>>
>> I also still have the ultra light paddle I built for my step daughter
>> when we got the 16' poly Canadian. She's now 30 and I still can't part
>> with the paddle!
>
>Yeah, I enjoyed making paddles too. Blades are laminated from birch
>veneer, pressed into a mould, with shafts turned from red hemlock.
>
Much fancier than the ally tube I used to make mine, the bit of ply
for the blade, spliced into the shaft with a length of dowel and a bit
of pine board hand carved to make the 'T' handle. It 'looks' quite
sophisticated though. ;-)
>>

>> [1] Making your own furniture is nice but you can't have as much fun
>> with it as you can a boat. ;-)
>
>Yes, I'm going to take her on a camping trip soon, up Loch Morar.

Brilliant. I think Lochs are great places to canoe (as long as you
stay in the canoe that is ... very deep and often pretty cold and
assuming good weather) as you can explore the shoreline and enjoy the
openness of a large expanse of water at the same time. Twisty (so you
aren't staring at a 10 mile straight), slow-moving rivers can also be
enjoyable as found on the Norfolk Broads and some fast moving stuff or
the sea for the more adventurous (not us as we are more cruising /
touring folk).

Boating is fun but nothing beats the special something you get from
doing so in something you made (or extensively refurbished) yourself.

I'm jealous. ;-(

T i m
From: J. J. Lodder on
T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote:

> On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 13:52:00 +0100, nospam(a)de-ster.demon.nl (J. J.
> Lodder) wrote:
>
>
> >Yet my tires have Max. Press. in kPA on them nowadays.
> >(about 300 of them, iirc)
> >
> Do you run a fleet of these by any chance Jan?
>
> http://www.fallingpixel.com/products/3208/mains/Appliance%201.jpg

Real life is much harder,
<http://www.encyclopedia.com/video/GiQGx-XpN7E-mammoet-transport-paalweg
-urmond.aspx>

It will be used to ride out U-864, if all goes well,

Jan
From: T i m on
On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 10:05:43 +0100, nospam(a)de-ster.demon.nl (J. J.
Lodder) wrote:


>Real life is much harder,
><http://www.encyclopedia.com/video/GiQGx-XpN7E-mammoet-transport-paalweg
>-urmond.aspx>

What a beautiful piece of kit. That said, it seems that a bit of damp
can slow it up a bit. [1] ;-(
>
>It will be used to ride out U-864, if all goes well,

Is this still the recovery plan do you know?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUy0laGmLTQ&feature=related

I like the way the 'soft jaws' extend from the grab when picking up
the sub (I was thinking as the grab came over the sub "what stops the
grab damaging the sub and potentially making matters worse". ;-)

At the end when the first half goes into the storage unit, what
happens to it next (or is that the end, entombment)?

What's your involvement in all of this if you don't mind me asking
Jan?

Cheers, T i m

[1] Only joking. It's amazing it can carry something obviously huge
and likely pretty heavy, off a barge and over wet wood at all! I'm
assuming it's all-wheel hydraulic drive but not fully load balancing
across all axles (one or two wheels spinning more than others and
didn't look like they had the same load on them as most the others).
Or does the load leveling process come first (assuming there is one)?