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Graeme <Graeme(a)greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> adrian(a)poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Adrian Tuddenham) wrote:
>
> > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> > > Okay, let's talk about it from that point of view.
> > >
> > > BBC Alba - the Scots Gaelic language channel that hardly anyone wants at
> > > all - costs 29.4p per hour.
>
> AIUI BBC Alba is paid for by the Scottish Government, not by the licence
> payer.

Hmm! Didn't know that. <shrug> Well, there you go.

Either way, I want to see it continue. Too many languages have been
lost.

> > I have nothing against the Scottish accents, in fact I rather like them,
> > but not time after time after time in every programme.
>
> Could be worse, they could all be fron Newcastle.

Yers - at least ordinary human beings can understand Scottish accents.

Drunken Geordies hitting the local dialect *hard* can end up
incomprehensible to each other. I have witnessed this - the problem is
a lot of the dialect is *very* local, you see.

Rowland.

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Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Yep, flying shuttle looms of the old fashioned sort, but they only had
> > (IIRC) four hooked up to the water-wheel powered belt drive when I was
> > there last.
>
> More typically, in the shed I filmed in, there were hundreds of them, in
> rows and columns.

Well, yes. Of course.

>Belt driven, but by electricity, which didn't make
> them any quieter.

Most had switched to power sources other than the originals come the
second world war.

> This wasn't a heritage site; they were still being used to make money.

Quarry Bank Mill was being used to make money making cloth from raw
bales of cotton, driven by a water turbine, right into the 1950s.

It's not a `heritage site'[1], it's a semi-working mill with small scale
operations still sort of going, run by the National Trust as a museum.

The only `silly' mod they've made is to replace the high power turbines
with the much lower power water wheel. Then again, the trouble they had
when I was there is that they didn't have enough machinery in commisson
for the regulation to work well - it was a high power operation, and
that water wheel mechanism didn't like *NOT* having a big load on it.

Rowland.

[1] A marketing term describing something with a complete absence of
authenticity as far as I'm concerned.

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Adrian Tuddenham <adrian(a)poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote:

> Graeme <Graeme(a)greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > adrian(a)poppyrecords.invalid.invalid (Adrian Tuddenham) wrote:
> >
> > [snip]
> > >
> > > It is a great pity that most music presenters these days seem to think
> > > that their voice is what the listener has tuned-in to hear and the music
> > > is merely a background to be spoken over. If the music is worth
> > > hearing, it is worth hearing 'in the clear' for its entirety.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Aren't presenters encouraged to speak over the music to stop people taping
> > the tracks off-air?
>
> That was probably the case with pop music in the 1960s,

They did it in the 1970s, and it never stopped anyone I knew from taping
the tracks off the radio, me included.

> but
> inappropriate talk-over is found in many programmes nowadays, not just
> in music shows but in interviews and serious documentaries. To me it
> just shows that a lot of the BBC radio programmes are being presented by
> badly-trained media-studies geeks.

I did hear a bit of Radio 1 the other day, late night on Sunday. The
presenter *apologised* for having screwed up the timing so badly he was
having to talk over the music.

Half an excuse: it was a problem-solving phone-in type programme.

> The presenters or their producers haven't stopped to think what effect
> is created by inappropriate talk over, and by music or effects under, an
> interview. It is an insult to the main performer; eqivalent to holding
> a loud conversation in the quiet part of a symphony concert or whistling
> a tune in the face of someone who is trying to answer a question you
> have just asked them.

Yup.

> BBC radio lost its way about 20 years ago and is just trailing along,
> aping other stations and telling us how good it is.

Hmm - I don't see that Radio 4 and Radio 3 have commercial equivalents
anywhere. And never mind the World Service.

> That is not to say
> that some individual programmes aren't good - but the overall
> organisation no longer understands what quality radio is all about.

Radio 4 is fighting a valiant rear-guard action, you know. And the
World Service good types haven't been exterminated, even if they are
eking out an existence in a secret bunker somewhere, subsisting on grass
and berries.

Rowland.

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T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote:

[snip]

> Mind you, it would have been in keeping with the general pace of
> things up there and what we hoped was going to be the style of our
> holiday ... had we not been trying to avoid the midges that is. ;-(

When I last visited Scotland, I did so in the company of others.

I used one brand of insect repellent. They all preferred another - the
marketing made them like it better.

The midges left me alone[1].

Not them.

There are basically two chemicals used as an insect repellent - the
common one, and the other one. I was using `the other one'.

Autan brand insect repellent, for those who are interested.

Rowland.

[1] Aside from one morning, when I decided I couldn't be bothered doing
the bits of my legs exposed below the bottom of the plus fours and top
of the socks. After all, I'd had no trouble with bites *at all*.

That was a learning experience, that was.

.... which included thinking `Well, I could have brought long woollen
socks which would have kept 'em off, couldn't I?'

A small patch of lower leg on either side ended up looking like it had
the plague, the rest of me being untouched by insect feeding.

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Graeme <Graeme(a)greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid (Rowland McDonnell) wrote:
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> > Yes, I did find out (when looking up those dates) that metric measures
> > were first made *legal* for all purposes by Parliament in 1896.
>
> That's what I was referring to :-)

But that was not went metrication began. It's the date metric became
*decriminialized* in the UK (and, one assumes, the Empire too).

Rowland.

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