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From: T i m on 23 Nov 2009 10:48 On Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:26:31 +0000, black.hole(a)jonbradbury.com (Jon B) wrote: >> I'm not supporting the blanket use of auto-reboot btw (I generally >> turn it off) but at the same time I might not want an open >> notepad.txt being used as a post-it preventing a reboot on a remote >> box? >> > >The current method obviously doesn't work as it can cause data loss & >hardware failure. But in the many many times I've seen it in action it hasn't (I'm not saying it can't). Bottom line. If you don't force this stuff on some people they will never do it ... like backups. 'A backup' (however crude) is better than no backup. Don't forget I've been working in / on / with Windows for over 20 years, both in business and domestic environments and know exactly what people won't do to help themselves. > It also decides to do it in the 5 mins you've gone to >put the kettle on. It's synched up with DHL deliveries. ;-) > >In the office enviroment then you may be able to put in a blanket "if >you haven't saved any docs when you go home at 5, don't complain when >we've rebooted the systems at 6 following updates and you've lost it. Yup. >You'd then be able to expect to safely reboot systems without causing >any headaches. All you need to do is get the few that may be in at 6 one >night, or leaving something running overnight to prewarn you to this >fact before you run the updates remotely. In a business environment wouldn't all that sort of thing be managed via IIS (or whatever) and the profiles / login scripts? > >At the office I've got Apples Remote Desktop, this actually allows me to >run the updates with a choice of three outcomes, don't restart, forced >restart, or attempt to restart but let the users save docs first. 'Allows me to run'. I have been to XP machines still on SP1. Not because they have reason why not to apply the updates, just they 'never have'. > This >will at least install the updates but when the users get back to the >office at 9am, the first thing its going to do is make them save the >notepad, then actually restart their machine to finish off the update. Yes, and how you can do it under Windows (or apply them when you shut down etc). OK, I know a few people who have fallen foul of the auto-restart thing, I've never said it was always good (and that I typically turn it off). However they only fall foul of it once and after that, set the Auto update -> restart to something more friendly. <shrug> FWIW, on laptops that could be used out on mobile BB I set AU to notify but do nothing. On my desktop I do similar because then I can choose when. On machines where I know they are unlikely to do an update unless it was forced upon them I normally set to download but only install on shutdown. If it's a business machine that is working I might turn AU off completely. Cheers, T i m
From: yoosenett on 23 Nov 2009 13:34 zoara <me18(a)privacy.net> wrote: > The "throw a window on each side of the screen and have them take up > exactly half the space" feature seems useful, in that you can quickly > set up two windows to be visible rather than spending (slightly) more > time arranging them manually to avoid overlap. Is it useful in > practice? Yes, I do quite like that feature. I do find it annoying when it happens by accident, though - Apple could improve upon it by requiring a keyboard modifier like holding Option or something. Same goes for the "shake a window to hide everything else" idea. For the most part otherwise, Windows 7 seems to have.. Ahem.. "learned" from Apple ;) I like the way 7 deals with widgets, the sort of desktop ones with a pseudo sidebar. That would be nice in OSX but whilst continuing to offer the nice quick access of "dashboard mode". -- Correct the spelling of 'usenet' to send me email.
From: R on 23 Nov 2009 13:58
Jon B <black.hole(a)jonbradbury.com> wrote: > The current method obviously doesn't work as it can cause data loss & > hardware failure. It also decides to do it in the 5 mins you've gone to > put the kettle on. Sigh. These internet kettles are always phoning home. |