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From: Woody on 16 Nov 2009 07:27 zoara <me18(a)privacy.net> wrote: > Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote: > > I believe it was a vista > > feature anyway, but all the vista features work better in 7. Apart > > from > > search. > > Search? What's the story there? Search is good for some things, such as finding word documents containing phrases, but really not good at other thigns, such as searching for one xml file in a group of 15,000, which unfortunately happens to be what I do with it. I suspect they will have the same issues as the issues people have here with the spotlight searches. > > Ultimately there is nothing that makes me want to use it more than > > OSX, > > but there are somethings that make using it better than the previous > > windows. > > Other than the overwrite dialogs, you haven't mentioned any. Is that > because they are few and far between or some other reason? Mainly as I wasn't sat on the machine so I couldn't think of them > I was hoping for this thread to provide a wealth of clever features that > I could spend time hoping that Apple would implement, but there doesn't > seem to be much... Really tehre isn't much. Most of the new features are things that already existed in OSX that have been implimented in a different way on that. The expose per application thing, I quite like on windows. I think that the click and hold on the application on OSX is a bit to slow and clumsy, and the windows instant flashing around is a bit too fast - the ideal would be between the two, but windows I think is closer to my ideal. Also that it shows you the windows in situ is good. Windows security 'don't do anything in a dialog behind the current window' I find very irritating, but not as irritiating as vistas protection thing. The spotlighty start application by name works now, in a way it didn't well in vista. Mainly there have just been some minor improvements that help the flow of using it. It still has all the normal windows 'where do I find the control for this', made worse by some seemingly random change in location of preferences, but you can't have everything They have taken a step back in some things. Unlike XP (and like vista), now when you are shutting down it sticks a grey screen over your work while it does it, and lists which applications haven't shut down yet (why am I meant to care about this?), but it is handy in that you can see your application under the grey asking to save a document, but the only way you could do anything about it is to cancel shutdown, say ok to that dialog and then shutdown again. Repeat for each. In XP you could just shut down and answer dialogs as they happened without it intefering. -- Woody
From: James Dore on 16 Nov 2009 07:28 On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:01:20 -0000, zoara <me18(a)privacy.net> wrote: > Ben Shimmin <bas(a)llamaselector.com> wrote: >> zoara <me18(a)privacy.net>: >> >> [...] >> >> > I'd be interested in hearing the "highlights" from a Mac user's >> > perspective... >> >> I've played around with it a fair bit now, so here are the highlights >> from my perspective: >> >> >> >> b. > > Heh. That good, huh? > Not quite. But almost. Cheers, -- James Dore New College IT Officer james.dore(a)new / it-support(a)new
From: J. J. Lodder on 16 Nov 2009 07:33 zoara <me18(a)privacy.net> wrote: > J. J. Lodder <nospam(a)de-ster.demon.nl> wrote: > > zoara <me18(a)privacy.net> wrote: > > > > > I know a few of you have had a reasonable play with Windows 7, and > > > I'm > > > curious... What stuff has Microsoft done with it that Apple could > > > really > > > learn from for the next version of OSX? > > > > > > At first I thought I liked the feature where hovering over an app in > > > the > > > taskbar gave you previews of all the app's open windows, but now I'm > > > not > > > so sure; rolling my mouse over the dock would give me a headache, > > > and I > > > have loads of windows open in some apps, which would make the > > > previews > > > very small. > > > > Built into Snow Leo. > > Just move the mouse there, > > click and hold, > > I was making a distinction between SL's implementation (which requires > the distinct click-and-hold interaction per application) and Windows 7's > implementation, which does not. At first blush it would seem the latter > is better, but I'm not sure. I'm quite sure it is not. Jan
From: Steve Firth on 16 Nov 2009 07:57 zoara <me18(a)privacy.net> wrote: > There may not be a huge difference in time or effort, but there *is* a > difference, and making the little things easier is what separates a > decent OS from an excellent one. Done right, I think this feature is a > winner. I'd like to see how it works on multiple monitors. Microsoft have a long history of getting multiple screen use badly wrong.
From: Ben Shimmin on 16 Nov 2009 08:00
James Dore <james.dore(a)new.ox.ac.uk>: > On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:01:20 -0000, zoara <me18(a)privacy.net> wrote: >> Ben Shimmin <bas(a)llamaselector.com> wrote: >>> zoara <me18(a)privacy.net>: >>> > I'd be interested in hearing the "highlights" from a Mac user's >>> > perspective... >>> >>> I've played around with it a fair bit now, so here are the highlights >>> from my perspective: >>> >>> >>> >>> b. >> >> Heh. That good, huh? > > Not quite. But almost. I've yet to find anything I like about it, and I've found quite a number of things that I don't. The other people in my department also seem to hate it, and they're not even Mac users (yet). b. -- <bas(a)bas.me.uk> <URL:http://bas.me.uk/> `Property, marriage, the law; as the bed to the river, so rule and convention to the instinct; and woe to him who tampers with the banks while the flood is flowing.' -- Samuel Butler, _Erewhon_ |