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From: Ben Shimmin on 16 Nov 2009 08:26 [...] > I was making a distinction between SL's implementation (which requires > the distinct click-and-hold interaction per application) and Windows 7's > implementation, which does not. At first blush it would seem the latter > is better, but I'm not sure. I find the Windows 7 preview thing bloody irritating. b. -- <bas(a)bas.me.uk> <URL:http://bas.me.uk/> `Property, marriage, the law; as the bed to the river, so rule and convention to the instinct; and woe to him who tampers with the banks while the flood is flowing.' -- Samuel Butler, _Erewhon_
From: zoara on 16 Nov 2009 09:49 Jon B <black.hole(a)jonbradbury.com> wrote: > Clive Sinclair <clive(a)cs.com> wrote: > > Apple learn from Microsoft? Very little. I know it's not > > constructive... > > > > I chuckle everytime I watch my wife boot her 5 month old laptop into > > > > Windows 7 takes forever. > > > > My 2yr old Mackbook Pro loads 10.6.2 is ready to use in about 40sec > > from > > power on. > > Power on? Always around 5seconds here from sleep Quicker than that, in Snow Leopard, for me. But my work Windows box wakes from sleep in about the same time (I bet the power consumption figures differ by a lot, though). -zoara- -- email: nettid1 at fastmail dot fm
From: Woody on 16 Nov 2009 10:16 Steve Firth <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote: > zoara <me18(a)privacy.net> wrote: > > > There may not be a huge difference in time or effort, but there *is* a > > difference, and making the little things easier is what separates a > > decent OS from an excellent one. Done right, I think this feature is a > > winner. > > I'd like to see how it works on multiple monitors. > > Microsoft have a long history of getting multiple screen use badly > wrong. I have it on muliple monitors but have yet to see the two window thing. Maybe that is because I have multiple monitors? -- Woody
From: Chris Ridd on 16 Nov 2009 11:11 On 2009-11-16 16:03:20 +0000, R said: > On 14 Nov 2009 18:12:41 GMT, zoara <me18(a)privacy.net> wrote: > >> I know a few of you have had a reasonable play with Windows 7, and I'm >> curious... What stuff has Microsoft done with it that Apple could really >> learn from for the next version of OSX? > > Apple could take a look at Windows Update. Software Update is > comparatively ghastly at the moment. > > I'm not referring to the underlying process of applying updates, or > which updates are made available. Rather, I mean the way this is > managed through Software Update. > > For example, there's a list of ignored updates and a list of pending > updates. But there's no way of viewing the list of ignored updates. > So you have to reset the ignored updates to see what was missing > and then (possibly) choose to ignore some of them again. > > Software Update is an example of a program that's been dumbed > down so much that, in many cases, it's awkward to use. Have you tried the softwareupdate command-line, er, command? -- Chris
From: Ben Shimmin on 16 Nov 2009 11:48
Chris Ridd <chrisridd(a)mac.com>: > On 2009-11-16 16:03:20 +0000, R said: [...] >> Apple could take a look at Windows Update. Software Update is >> comparatively ghastly at the moment. >> >> I'm not referring to the underlying process of applying updates, or >> which updates are made available. Rather, I mean the way this is >> managed through Software Update. >> >> For example, there's a list of ignored updates and a list of pending >> updates. But there's no way of viewing the list of ignored updates. >> So you have to reset the ignored updates to see what was missing >> and then (possibly) choose to ignore some of them again. >> >> Software Update is an example of a program that's been dumbed >> down so much that, in many cases, it's awkward to use. > > Have you tried the softwareupdate command-line, er, command? Yeah, when the GUI has been dumbed down too much, just switch to the CLI. Not really the Apple way, though! Perhaps Apple could implement the Windows Update feature of popping up a dialog box every five minutes asking you to update now or later. I love that feature. b. -- <bas(a)bas.me.uk> <URL:http://bas.me.uk/> `Property, marriage, the law; as the bed to the river, so rule and convention to the instinct; and woe to him who tampers with the banks while the flood is flowing.' -- Samuel Butler, _Erewhon_ |