From: dre on 10 Nov 2009 14:32 Can anyone refute any of these proofs? "Simple, logical proofs of MDT: MDT PROOF#1: Relativity tells us that a timeless, ageless photon remains in one place in the fourth dimension. Quantum mechanics tells us that a photon propagates as a spherically-symmetric expanding wavefront at the velocity of c. Ergo, the fourth dimension must be expanding relative to the three spatial dimensions at the rate of c, in a spherically-symmetric manner. The expansion of the fourth dimension is the source of nonlocality, entanglement, time and all its arrows and asymmetries, c, relativity, entropy, free will, and all motion, change, and measurement, for no measurement can be made without change. For the first time in the history of relativity, change has been wedded to the fundamental fabric of spacetime in MDT. MDT PROOF#2: Einstein (1912 Man. on Rel.) and Minkowski wrote x4=ict. Ergo dx4/dt=ic. MDT PROOF#3: The only way to stay stationary in the three spatial dimensions is to move at c through the fourth dimension. The only way to stay stationary in the fourth dimension is to move at c through the three spatial dimensions. Ergo the fourth dimension is moving at c relative to the three spatial dimensions. MDT twitter proof (limited to 140 characters): SR: photon is stationary in 4th dimension. QM: photon is probability wave expanding @ c. Ergo: 4th dimension expands @ c & MDT: dx4/dt=ic -from [url] http://twitter.com/45surf[/url] " On Nov 9, 1:19 pm, dre <drell...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Can anyone refute any of these proofs? > > "Simple, logical proofs of MDT: > > MDT PROOF#1: Relativity tells us that a timeless, ageless photon > remains in one place in the fourth dimension. Quantum mechanics tells > us that a photon propagates as a spherically-symmetric expanding > wavefront at the velocity of c. Ergo, the fourth dimension must be > expanding relative to the three spatial dimensions at the rate of c, > in a spherically-symmetric manner. The expansion of the fourth > dimension is the source of nonlocality, entanglement, time and all > its > arrows and asymmetries, c, relativity, entropy, free will, and all > motion, change, and measurement, for no measurement can be made > without change. For the first time in the history of relativity, > change has been wedded to the fundamental fabric of spacetime in MDT. > MDT PROOF#2: Einstein (1912 Man. on Rel.) and Minkowski wrote x4=ict. > Ergo dx4/dt=ic. > MDT PROOF#3: The only way to stay stationary in the three spatial > dimensions is to move at c through the fourth dimension. The only way > to stay stationary in the fourth dimension is to move at c through > the > three spatial dimensions. Ergo the fourth dimension is moving at c > relative to the three spatial dimensions. > MDT twitter proof (limited to 140 characters): SR: photon is > stationary in 4th dimension. QM: photon is probability wave expanding > @ c. Ergo: 4th dimension expands @ c & MDT: dx4/dt=ic -from [url]http://twitter.com/45surf[/url] "
From: Androcles on 10 Nov 2009 15:02 "dre" <drelliot(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:f81f8d4f-cd9a-41ca-928f-d58e8f54e211(a)v30g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... Can anyone refute any of these proofs? ============================== Yes, you cretin. Any of your drivel-lot "proofs" can be refuted.
From: cjcountess on 10 Nov 2009 18:51 This is Conrad J Countess To all I post this massage earlier today and although I got message of successful post still I could not find my post. Well upon return I found to my dismay that this post had been diverted to another group curiously titled alt.morons. Is this what is people who do not agree with you allowed are resorting to and is this allowed. I know that everything I say may not be 100 percent correct but this is rediculous and childish behavior. I suspected that some of my post were sabotaged before because mistakes kept showing up that I know I did not make but this is out right wrong and should not be permited. Whoever is responsible for this step forward and I will debate you personally and fairly unless you are afraid. COME FORTH COWARD SHOW YOURSELF!! Ahmed, how are you? To simplify things, we could translate your, "2pi square root(L/g)" to (sqrt of c^2) which is "c" and multiply it by 2pi which is equal to (h x 2pi). The sqrt of c^2 on the short end of the EM spectrum, would be radius of electron. KONCHOK.PENDAY Sounds interesting will look at it. Dre, With all due respect, I am really curious as to how and where does "quantum theory", tell us that, photons expand spherically at c, which means it gets bigger exponentially, at LxT^2. I could see how space, as ground state energy, as a whole does this, but a single photon? PLEASE EXPLAIN? And again explain gravity's apparent faster than c probigation. I already told you that I think gravity can be quantitized in same way as energy and matter because of inertial/gravity mass equivalence. This I saw because of my geometrical interpretation of E=mc^2. Like I said just as (E=mc^2) = (m=Ec^2) because of energy /mass equivalence (m=Ec^2) = (G=mc^2) because of inertia mass/gravity mass equivalence. Einstien even stated in article on General Relativity that the gravity strength of earth = rest energy of earth x c^2. And furthermore because of geometrical interpretation of E=mc^2 it become plain that (E=hf/c^2) = (F=mv/r^2) = (F=Gmm/r^2) and (E=mc^2) = (F=mv^2) on quantum level exactly not just as analogies. Conrad Countess
From: cjcountess on 11 Nov 2009 13:00 Ahmed, You are indeed correct. Thank you for that response Conrad J Countess To the various authors of MOVING DIMENSIONS THEORY Your theory is interesting, very comprehensive, and radiates enthusiasm but you lose me at the point where you claim that a single photon expands sphericaly at c. Do any of you have a simpler explination. One of you,Dr. McGuken, claims to have attended Princeton university under John Wheeler and got a highly favorable recomodation from him. That is a great achievment, which gives me more confidence in your work. But that alone is not enough to convince me that photons expand sphericaly at c through space, while at same time siting still in time dimension. Conrad J Countess
From: BURT on 11 Nov 2009 13:58
On Nov 11, 10:00 am, cjcountess <cjcount...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Ahmed, You are indeed correct. > > Thank you for that response > > Conrad J Countess > > To the various authors of > > MOVING DIMENSIONS THEORY > > Your theory is interesting, very comprehensive, and radiates > enthusiasm but you lose me at the point where you claim that a single > photon expands sphericaly at c. Do any of you have a simpler > explination. > > One of you,Dr. McGuken, claims to have attended Princeton university > under John Wheeler and got a highly favorable recomodation from him. > That is a great achievment, which gives me more confidence in your > work. But that alone is not enough to convince me that photons expand > sphericaly at c through space, while at same time siting still in time > dimension. > > Conrad J Countess Space amd time move but not like matter. MItch Raemsch |