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From: Mike Jr on 1 Feb 2010 14:47 On Feb 1, 1:24 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 2/1/10 4:18 AM, Mike Jr wrote: > > > > > On Feb 1, 1:39 am, Sam Wormley<sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 2/1/10 12:25 AM, Just A Guy wrote: > > >>> Does all this prove global warming is a hoax? > > >>> I believe it does. > > >> Now your have to come up with some other explanation > >> for all that ice melting and global sea level rise. :-o > > > Sam, > > Ice has been melting and the sea level rising since the end of the > > last ice age. 8,000 years ago, the sea level was rising four times as > > fast as the 20th century average. The slope of the sea level rise > > flattened again in 2006 (TOPIX). > > > We don't have very good data for the polar ice caps prior to 2002 but > > I sure don't see a monotonic trend. Do you? > > > You act like the natural variability in the climate is very small and > > that what we have seen is unusual. Do you know what the natural > > variation is? > > > None of the short term climate model predictions have panned out. If > > they can't predict a few years ahead why would you conclude that they > > can predict ahead 40 or 100 years? > > > Do I think that the USA should reduce its dependence on foreign oil? > > You bet. We should have been building nuclear power plants but the > > greenies stopped that. So whose fault is it that the USA burns as > > much oil as it does? It is time that the green movement takes > > responsibility for the consequences of the policies they have > > advocated and continue to advocate. > > > Enough is enough. > > > --Mike Jr. > > Mike, you don't get it, normal or human activity driven, the earth > is warming. That warming has impact showing up in agriculture, > dying ecosystems, weather patterns, shifting seasons. > > NOAA Climate Monitoring > http://lwf.ncdc.noaa.gov/climate-monitoring/index.php > > The Pew Center on Global Climate Change > http://www.pewclimate.org/ What exactly don't I get? How much has it warmed? OK, lets make it easier; how much has it warmed since 1998? UAH MSU: Temperature Variation From Average: Lower Troposphere: Global: December 2009: +0.28 °C Northern Hemisphere: +0.33 °C Southern Hemisphere: +0.24 °C Peak recorded anomaly: February, 1998: +0.76 °C Current relative to peak recorded: -0.48 °C DECADAL TREND: Global: +0.13 °C Northern Hemisphere: +0.19 °C Southern Hemisphere: +0.07 °C Last update: January 7, 2010 I truly do not see the problem. Plus, there isn't a thing we can do about it. This is what we call natural variation. GISS used selection bias to corrupt the historical temperature record. Can you imagine the uproar if Exxon had done this? Where are the voices standing up for science? Too embarrassed to speak up? GISS Global Near-Surface Anomaly: December 2009: +0.59 °C Peak recorded anomaly: January, 2007: +0.87 °C Current relative to peak recorded: -0.28 °C Last update: January 17, 2010 And with all the fraud, this is the best warming they can manufacture? Pathetic. --Mike Jr.
From: Cwatters on 1 Feb 2010 15:43 http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601081&sid=aD.MbbEYBSZE World's Biggest Emitters Sign Up to Copenhagen Climate Accord Feb. 1 (Bloomberg) -- China, the U.S. and the 27-nation European Union signed up to the Copenhagen Accord, giving life to the first climate-protection agreement that contains numerical goals for all the biggest greenhouse-gas emitters. They were joined by Australia, Indonesia, Canada, Japan and India, according to national governments and the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change, which is compiling the pledges. They had until Jan. 31 to formally back the accord.
From: Mike Jr on 1 Feb 2010 16:35 On Feb 1, 3:43 pm, "Cwatters" <colin.wattersNOS...(a)TurnersOakNOSPAM.plus.com> wrote: > http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601081&sid=aD.MbbEYBSZE > World's Biggest Emitters Sign Up to Copenhagen Climate Accord > > Feb. 1 (Bloomberg) -- China, the U.S. and the 27-nation European Union > signed up to the Copenhagen Accord, giving life to the first > climate-protection agreement that contains numerical goals for all the > biggest greenhouse-gas emitters. > > They were joined by Australia, Indonesia, Canada, Japan and India, according > to national governments and the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change, > which is compiling the pledges. They had until Jan. 31 to formally back the > accord. There is this requirement in the US Constitution about the US Senate ratifying any treaty that the President may sign. Until then, it is not legally binding. --Mike Jr.
From: Marvin the Martian on 1 Feb 2010 17:28 On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 10:11:20 +0100, Peter Muehlbauer wrote: > Richard Henry <pomerado(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> On Jan 31, 11:49 pm, matt_sykes <zzeb...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> > On 1 Feb, 07:39, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > > On 2/1/10 12:25 AM, Just A Guy wrote: >> > >> > > > Does all this prove global warming is a hoax? >> > >> > > > I believe it does. >> > >> > > Now your have to come up with some other explanation for all >> > > that ice melting and global sea level rise. :-o >> > >> > Global sea ice isnt changing. >> >> http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/IMAGES/ global.daily.ice.area.withtrend.jpg > > And what was before 1979, let's say the last 12000 years? That graph shows a peak of ice area at about 22 million square kilometers in 1979 and again in 2008. Not much of an argument for change, but it is an argument that the area covered by ice doesn't change much with time.
From: Marvin the Martian on 1 Feb 2010 17:32
On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 10:58:01 -0800, George wrote: > On Feb 2, 7:24 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> NOAA Climate Monitoring >> http://lwf.ncdc.noaa.gov/climate-monitoring/index.php >> >> > But they are the people who 'adjusted' the data and who employ those who > went along with the scam. It is as if to prove a witness didn't commit perjury, Sam quotes the proven perjurer as gospel truth. Then he can't figure out why people have a problem with it. And when you point out to Sam that the ice age ended some 25,000 years ago and glaciers have been melting since then, he can't see why that debunks his post hoc argument that glaciers are melting so it MUST be due to CO2 and it MUST be man made and it MUST be bad. These illogical consistencies are pointed out time after time to Sam, and his only reply is to be a damned poser. There is no explanation for his compulsive and irrational behavior. |