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From: Oregon Petition on 1 Feb 2010 18:57 George wrote: > On Feb 2, 7:24 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > NOAA Climate Monitoring > > http://lwf.ncdc.noaa.gov/climate-monitoring/index.php > > But they are the people who 'adjusted' the data and who employ those > who went along with the scam. It's all a big conspiracy by the socialist UN and socialist NASA. Only believe Lorne Gunther. Scientists can no longer be trusted.
From: Bill Ward on 1 Feb 2010 18:57 On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 16:32:59 -0600, Marvin the Martian wrote: > On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 10:58:01 -0800, George wrote: > >> On Feb 2, 7:24 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> NOAA Climate Monitoring >>> http://lwf.ncdc.noaa.gov/climate-monitoring/index.php >>> >>> >> But they are the people who 'adjusted' the data and who employ those >> who went along with the scam. > > It is as if to prove a witness didn't commit perjury, Sam quotes the > proven perjurer as gospel truth. > > Then he can't figure out why people have a problem with it. > > And when you point out to Sam that the ice age ended some 25,000 years > ago and glaciers have been melting since then, he can't see why that > debunks his post hoc argument that glaciers are melting so it MUST be > due to CO2 and it MUST be man made and it MUST be bad. > > These illogical consistencies are pointed out time after time to Sam, > and his only reply is to be a damned poser. There is no explanation for > his compulsive and irrational behavior. Sam is trying to play tug-of-war, but he doesn't realize his rope is broken.
From: Oregon Petition on 1 Feb 2010 19:02 On Feb 1, 2:47 pm, Mike Jr <n00s...(a)comcast.net> wrote: > On Feb 1, 1:24 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On 2/1/10 4:18 AM, Mike Jr wrote: > > > > On Feb 1, 1:39 am, Sam Wormley<sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >> On 2/1/10 12:25 AM, Just A Guy wrote: > > > >>> Does all this prove global warming is a hoax? > > > >>> I believe it does. > > > >> Now your have to come up with some other explanation > > >> for all that ice melting and global sea level rise. :-o > > > > Sam, > > > Ice has been melting and the sea level rising since the end of the > > > last ice age. 8,000 years ago, the sea level was rising four times as > > > fast as the 20th century average. The slope of the sea level rise > > > flattened again in 2006 (TOPIX). > > > > We don't have very good data for the polar ice caps prior to 2002 but > > > I sure don't see a monotonic trend. Do you? > > > > You act like the natural variability in the climate is very small and > > > that what we have seen is unusual. Do you know what the natural > > > variation is? > > > > None of the short term climate model predictions have panned out. If > > > they can't predict a few years ahead why would you conclude that they > > > can predict ahead 40 or 100 years? > > > > Do I think that the USA should reduce its dependence on foreign oil? > > > You bet. We should have been building nuclear power plants but the > > > greenies stopped that. So whose fault is it that the USA burns as > > > much oil as it does? It is time that the green movement takes > > > responsibility for the consequences of the policies they have > > > advocated and continue to advocate. > > > > Enough is enough. > > > > --Mike Jr. > > > Mike, you don't get it, normal or human activity driven, the earth > > is warming. That warming has impact showing up in agriculture, > > dying ecosystems, weather patterns, shifting seasons. > > > NOAA Climate Monitoring > > http://lwf.ncdc.noaa.gov/climate-monitoring/index.php > > > The Pew Center on Global Climate Change > > http://www.pewclimate.org/ > > What exactly don't I get? > > How much has it warmed? OK, lets make it easier; how much has it > warmed since 1998? > Trends are for fools. 1998 is too long ago. Try yesterday. That makes it even easier. If you were a real scientist, you would know that already.
From: I M on 1 Feb 2010 19:08 On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 00:39:32 -0600, Sam Wormley <swormley1(a)gmail.com> wrote: >On 2/1/10 12:25 AM, Just A Guy wrote: > >> Does all this prove global warming is a hoax? >> >> I believe it does. > > > Now your have to come up with some other explanation > for all that ice melting and global sea level rise. :-o It will not be possible for man to do anything to prevent changes in sea level, it had been rising before oil and natural gas were discovered, and before the first coal fired power plant, and before trains started delivering coal a long way from the coal mine. The "hoax" may exist even though every scientist in the world is convinced CO2 causes warming and that the cru, GISS and IPCC reports are correct. Most glaciers that exist today are well above sea level, and most of the melting is on the bottom, which has nothing to do with CO2, air temperatures, or anything man does or has done. I think you, enigma, Tom, and UMMMMMM are gullible and are over reacting to what has to be a false issue. There will always be areas of drought, and regions that get way too much rain in too short a period. The past disasters dwarf any recent ones, gossip and rumor are the danger, get facts, and avoid the embarrassment the IPCC faces.
From: Androcles on 1 Feb 2010 20:07
"I M @ good guy" <I_m(a)good.guy> wrote in message news:jaqem51d9b37qm8ifn9uass24tf1j3klce(a)4ax.com... > On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 00:39:32 -0600, Sam Wormley <swormley1(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >>On 2/1/10 12:25 AM, Just A Guy wrote: >> >>> Does all this prove global warming is a hoax? >>> >>> I believe it does. >> >> >> Now your have to come up with some other explanation >> for all that ice melting and global sea level rise. :-o > > > It will not be possible for man to do anything > to prevent changes in sea level, it had been rising > before oil and natural gas were discovered, and > before the first coal fired power plant, and before > trains started delivering coal a long way from the > coal mine. > > The "hoax" may exist even though every > scientist in the world is convinced CO2 causes > warming X is a scientist. For all X, X is convinced CO2 causes warming.-- I_m(a)good.guy There exists Y who is not convinced CO2 causes warming, therefore Y is not a scientist. I'm glad I'm an engineer, I'd hate to be a shithea... err... scientist. > and that the cru, GISS and IPCC reports > are correct. > > Most glaciers that exist today are well > above sea level, and most of the melting is > on the bottom, which has nothing to do with > CO2, air temperatures, or anything man does > or has done. > > I think you, enigma, Tom, and UMMMMMM > are gullible and are over reacting to what has > to be a false issue. > There will always be areas of drought, and > regions that get way too much rain in too short > a period. > > The past disasters dwarf any recent ones, > gossip and rumor are the danger, get facts, > and avoid the embarrassment the IPCC faces. You misspelt "faeces". |