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From: I M on 1 Feb 2010 21:09 On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 12:24:58 -0600, Sam Wormley <swormley1(a)gmail.com> wrote: >On 2/1/10 4:18 AM, Mike Jr wrote: >> On Feb 1, 1:39 am, Sam Wormley<sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> On 2/1/10 12:25 AM, Just A Guy wrote: >>> >>>> Does all this prove global warming is a hoax? >>> >>>> I believe it does. >>> >>> Now your have to come up with some other explanation >>> for all that ice melting and global sea level rise. :-o >> >> Sam, >> Ice has been melting and the sea level rising since the end of the >> last ice age. 8,000 years ago, the sea level was rising four times as >> fast as the 20th century average. The slope of the sea level rise >> flattened again in 2006 (TOPIX). >> >> We don't have very good data for the polar ice caps prior to 2002 but >> I sure don't see a monotonic trend. Do you? >> >> You act like the natural variability in the climate is very small and >> that what we have seen is unusual. Do you know what the natural >> variation is? >> >> None of the short term climate model predictions have panned out. If >> they can't predict a few years ahead why would you conclude that they >> can predict ahead 40 or 100 years? >> >> Do I think that the USA should reduce its dependence on foreign oil? >> You bet. We should have been building nuclear power plants but the >> greenies stopped that. So whose fault is it that the USA burns as >> much oil as it does? It is time that the green movement takes >> responsibility for the consequences of the policies they have >> advocated and continue to advocate. >> >> Enough is enough. >> >> --Mike Jr. > > Mike, you don't get it, normal or human activity driven, the earth > is warming. That warming has impact showing up in agriculture, > dying ecosystems, weather patterns, shifting seasons. > > NOAA Climate Monitoring > http://lwf.ncdc.noaa.gov/climate-monitoring/index.php > > The Pew Center on Global Climate Change > http://www.pewclimate.org/ Why don't you produce a movie called "Born Yesterday"? Weather patterns? Shifting Seasons? Next Global Warming will be causing people to put their underwear on backwards.
From: Mike Jr on 1 Feb 2010 22:16 On Feb 1, 7:02 pm, Oregon Petition <garekm...(a)ymail.com> wrote: > On Feb 1, 2:47 pm, Mike Jr <n00s...(a)comcast.net> wrote: > > > > > On Feb 1, 1:24 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On 2/1/10 4:18 AM, Mike Jr wrote: > > > > > On Feb 1, 1:39 am, Sam Wormley<sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> On 2/1/10 12:25 AM, Just A Guy wrote: > > > > >>> Does all this prove global warming is a hoax? > > > > >>> I believe it does. > > > > >> Now your have to come up with some other explanation > > > >> for all that ice melting and global sea level rise. :-o > > > > > Sam, > > > > Ice has been melting and the sea level rising since the end of the > > > > last ice age. 8,000 years ago, the sea level was rising four times as > > > > fast as the 20th century average. The slope of the sea level rise > > > > flattened again in 2006 (TOPIX). > > > > > We don't have very good data for the polar ice caps prior to 2002 but > > > > I sure don't see a monotonic trend. Do you? > > > > > You act like the natural variability in the climate is very small and > > > > that what we have seen is unusual. Do you know what the natural > > > > variation is? > > > > > None of the short term climate model predictions have panned out. If > > > > they can't predict a few years ahead why would you conclude that they > > > > can predict ahead 40 or 100 years? > > > > > Do I think that the USA should reduce its dependence on foreign oil? > > > > You bet. We should have been building nuclear power plants but the > > > > greenies stopped that. So whose fault is it that the USA burns as > > > > much oil as it does? It is time that the green movement takes > > > > responsibility for the consequences of the policies they have > > > > advocated and continue to advocate. > > > > > Enough is enough. > > > > > --Mike Jr. > > > > Mike, you don't get it, normal or human activity driven, the earth > > > is warming. That warming has impact showing up in agriculture, > > > dying ecosystems, weather patterns, shifting seasons. > > > > NOAA Climate Monitoring > > > http://lwf.ncdc.noaa.gov/climate-monitoring/index.php > > > > The Pew Center on Global Climate Change > > > http://www.pewclimate.org/ > > > What exactly don't I get? > > > How much has it warmed? OK, lets make it easier; how much has it > > warmed since 1998? > > Trends are for fools. 1998 is too long ago. Try yesterday. That > makes it even easier. > > If you were a real scientist, you would know that already. You mean a real scientist like you? Oh be still my beating heart! ;-) We have satellite data for 1998. We (obviously) don't for 1908. I don't trust the land surface temperature data even as far as I can throw it. --Mike Jr.
From: Sam Wormley on 2 Feb 2010 00:38 On 2/1/10 12:58 PM, George wrote: > On Feb 2, 7:24 am, Sam Wormley<sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> NOAA Climate Monitoring >> http://lwf.ncdc.noaa.gov/climate-monitoring/index.php >> > > But they are the people who 'adjusted' the data and who employ those > who went along with the scam. Nevertheless the earth is warming.
From: Benj on 2 Feb 2010 03:25 On Feb 2, 12:38 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 2/1/10 12:58 PM, George wrote: > > > On Feb 2, 7:24 am, Sam Wormley<sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >> NOAA Climate Monitoring > >> http://lwf.ncdc.noaa.gov/climate-monitoring/index.php > > > But they are the people who 'adjusted' the data and who employ those > > who went along with the scam. > > Nevertheless the earth is warming. True. Ever so slowly at exactly the same rate as it has for the last 5000 years! http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.globalwarmingart.com/images/thumb/0/0f/Recent_Sea_Level_Rise.png/700px-Recent_Sea_Level_Rise.png&imgrefurl=http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/03/06/basic-geology-part-3-sea-level-rises-during-interglacial-periods/&h=491&w=700&sz=243&tbnid=U5elFBwY94kcEM:&tbnh=98&tbnw=140&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dsea%2Blevel%2Brise&hl=en&usg=__7fBMmCTahHbVq-grWUr8Paq2IIY=&ei=w_1bS8_1BI2ANp2snYQP&sa=X&oi=image_result&resnum=5&ct=image&ved=0CBoQ9QEwBA Shill.
From: Flaps_50! on 2 Feb 2010 03:55
On Feb 2, 2:07 pm, "Androcles" <Headmas...(a)Hogwarts.physics_u> wrote: > "I M @ good guy" <I...(a)good.guy> wrote in messagenews:jaqem51d9b37qm8ifn9uass24tf1j3klce(a)4ax.com... > > > > > > > On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 00:39:32 -0600, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> > > wrote: > > >>On 2/1/10 12:25 AM, Just A Guy wrote: > > >>> Does all this prove global warming is a hoax? > > >>> I believe it does. > > >> Now your have to come up with some other explanation > >> for all that ice melting and global sea level rise. :-o > > > It will not be possible for man to do anything > > to prevent changes in sea level, it had been rising > > before oil and natural gas were discovered, and > > before the first coal fired power plant, and before > > trains started delivering coal a long way from the > > coal mine. > > > The "hoax" may exist even though every > > scientist in the world is convinced CO2 causes > > warming > > X is a scientist. > For all X, X is convinced CO2 causes warming.-- I...(a)good.guy > > There exists Y who is not convinced CO2 causes warming, > therefore Y is not a scientist. > > I'm glad I'm an engineer, I'd hate to be a shithea... err... scientist. > Since no real scientist believes in absolute truth (as there are two probabilities forbidden in the universe: 0 and 1), it follows that those that say the science is settled cannot be scientists. Cheers |