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From: Mike Jr on 2 Feb 2010 11:10 On Feb 2, 10:36 am, Oregon Petition <garekm...(a)ymail.com> wrote: > Sam Wormley wrote: > > Nevertheless the earth is warming. > > Only if you believe what scientists say. And we all know how they > can't be trusted. > > Most of them are leftists. > > From The St. Petersburg Times, 8/16/09:http://www.tampabay.com/opinion/columns/article1027502.ece > > Why scientists are seldom Republicans > > By Robyn E. Blumner, Times Columnist > > Have you ever wondered what the world would be like without > scientists? > > Ask the Republican Party. > > It lives in such a world. > > Republicans have been so successful in driving out of their party > anyone who endeavors in scientific inquiry that pretty soon there > won't be anyone left who can distinguish a periodic table from a > kitchen table. [ [[snip] Is Oregon Petition a pseudonym for James Carville? You should be ashamed for posting something so both blatantly untrue and unsupported. Get ready because the real world is about to reach out and smack you. --Mike Jr.
From: Sam Wormley on 2 Feb 2010 13:28 On 2/2/10 9:14 AM, Claudius Denk wrote: > > There is no statistically significant indication that the earth is > either warming or cooling. It's only envirowhackos that believe > otherwise. You must live in California
From: tg on 2 Feb 2010 14:45 On Feb 2, 1:28 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 2/2/10 9:14 AM, Claudius Denk wrote: > > > > > There is no statistically significant indication that the earth is > > either warming or cooling. It's only envirowhackos that believe > > otherwise. > > You must live in California I don't think that's necessary. Please note that he or any of his co- religionists are never going to tell you what *would* constitute evidence that they would accept. I've asked my simple question multiple times and there is simply no response, even from those who claim a background in hard science. This is the classic anti-science rhetorical game---whatever data you present will not be sufficient. -tg
From: longview on 2 Feb 2010 15:13 On Feb 2, 1:45 pm, tg <tgdenn...(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > On Feb 2, 1:28 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On 2/2/10 9:14 AM, Claudius Denk wrote: > > > > There is no statistically significant indication that the earth is > > > either warming or cooling. It's only envirowhackos that believe > > > otherwise. > > > You must live in California > > I don't think that's necessary. Please note that he or any of his co- > religionists are never going to tell you what *would* constitute > evidence that they would accept. I've asked my simple question > multiple times and there is simply no response, even from those who > claim a background in hard science. > > This is the classic anti-science rhetorical game---whatever data you > present will not be sufficient. > > -tg Long term the climate is most likely changing, as change is the norm. I am not sure if this is a good or a bad thing. It is the height of hubris to assume now is the proper temperature. That man and his activities are responsible for the warming, is a question that we do not have enough data to answer. CO2 cannot be the cause, as the ice cores show that temperature leads CO2 increases by about 80 years. The effect can never be the cause. This is like saying my house fell down, It is going to be windy next week. Our Science has become corrupted by our funding model, and our funding model has bias. The governments asked/ paid for a certain kind of data, and got what they paid for. That well meaning scientist accepted grants and produced the results that were asked, does not make them evil. They are just part of the crowd. Hype and fear, are not the answers, if the earth is warming, we will adapt. That humans can adapt, is why we are at the top of the food chain. Contrary to what is stated, Temperatures have been warmer, and Sea levels have been higher within Human history. We survived. I think the best we can hope for, is to try to mitigate the effects of climate change, whatever direction the temperature might move. Calm, not hype should carry the day.
From: tg on 2 Feb 2010 15:35
On Feb 2, 3:13 pm, longview <thebah...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Feb 2, 1:45 pm, tg <tgdenn...(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > > > > > On Feb 2, 1:28 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On 2/2/10 9:14 AM, Claudius Denk wrote: > > > > > There is no statistically significant indication that the earth is > > > > either warming or cooling. It's only envirowhackos that believe > > > > otherwise. > > > > You must live in California > > > I don't think that's necessary. Please note that he or any of his co- > > religionists are never going to tell you what *would* constitute > > evidence that they would accept. I've asked my simple question > > multiple times and there is simply no response, even from those who > > claim a background in hard science. > > > This is the classic anti-science rhetorical game---whatever data you > > present will not be sufficient. > > > -tg > *** > Long term the climate is most likely changing, as change is the norm. > I am not sure if this is a good or a bad thing. What would make you sure? > It is the height of hubris to assume now is the proper > temperature. Is there any temperature that would not be the proper temperature? > That man and his activities are responsible for the warming, is a > question that we do not have enough data to answer. > How much would be enough data to answer? -tg > CO2 cannot be the cause, as the ice cores show that temperature leads > CO2 increases by about 80 years. The effect can never be the cause. > This is like saying my house fell down, It is going to be windy next > week. > > Our Science has become corrupted by our funding model, and our funding > model has bias. > The governments asked/ paid for a certain kind of data, and got what > they paid for. > That well meaning scientist accepted grants and produced the results > that were asked, does not make them evil. They are just part of the > crowd. > > Hype and fear, are not the answers, if the earth is warming, we will > adapt. > That humans can adapt, is why we are at the top of the food chain. > > Contrary to what is stated, Temperatures have been warmer, and Sea > levels have been higher within Human history. We survived. > > I think the best we can hope for, is to try to mitigate the effects of > climate change, whatever direction the temperature might move. > > Calm, not hype should carry the day. |