From: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. on 19 Jul 2010 15:40 On Wednesday 14 July 2010 10:52:57 Johnny wrote: > I am sorry if someone has already has asked this ? on the list > When is best time to upgrade from lenny to squeeze. > I use my computer daily Are you happy with Lenny? Are you using lenny-backports? If you are happy with Lenny and are not using lenny-backports, the I'd stick with Lenny (at least) until release time. If you are using lenny-backports, you should upgrade as soon as Squeeze is released. After the release, lenny-backports may not have a clean upgrade path to Squeeze / squeeze-backports. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. bss(a)iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/ \_/
From: Paul Cartwright on 19 Jul 2010 16:20 On Mon July 19 2010, you wrote: > You should assume you are using lenny-backports. I am, I have this in my sources.list file: deb http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib non-free > > It is possible you do not have any software installed from that repository, > which means it would not affect your upgrade. The assumption that you are > using it is safer though. how would I know? -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 Registered Ubuntu User #12459 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201007191609.58444.debian(a)pcartwright.com
From: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. on 19 Jul 2010 18:20 On Monday 19 July 2010 15:09:58 Paul Cartwright wrote: > On Mon July 19 2010, you wrote: > > You should assume you are using lenny-backports. > > I am, I have this in my sources.list file: > deb http://www.backports.org/debian lenny-backports main contrib non-free > > > It is possible you do not have any software installed from that > > repository, which means it would not affect your upgrade. The > > assumption that you are using it is safer though. > > how would I know? printf 'You are ' && { [ $(aptitude search '~S ~i ~Alenny-backports' | wc -l) -lt 1 ] || printf 'not '; } && printf 'using lenny-backports.\n' -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. bss(a)iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/ \_/
From: Paul Cartwright on 20 Jul 2010 05:00 On Tue July 20 2010, you wrote: > > $ printf 'You are ' && \ > > > > > { > > > > > > [ $(aptitude search '~S ~i ~Alenny-backports' | wc -l) -ge 1 ] > > > || \ printf 'not ' > > > > > > } && \ > > > printf 'using lenny-backports.\n' > > > > You are using lenny-backports. > > The script takes that output and runs it through "wc -l" to count the > number of lines (packages). It that's less than (-lt) 1, i.e. 0, it > negates the sentence being output. so if I wanted the LIST of packages that I have installed using backports, it would be like this? $ aptitude search '~S ~i ~Alenny-backports' i libmysqlclient-dev - MySQL database development files i A libmysqlclient16 - MySQL database client library i libv4l-0 - Collection of video4linux support librarie i A mysql-common - MySQL database common files, e.g. /etc/mys -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 Registered Ubuntu User #12459 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201007200456.08108.debian(a)pcartwright.com
From: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. on 20 Jul 2010 05:40
On Tuesday 20 July 2010 03:56:08 Paul Cartwright wrote: > so if I wanted the LIST of packages that I have installed using backports, > it would be like this? > > $ aptitude search '~S ~i ~Alenny-backports' > i libmysqlclient-dev - MySQL database development files > i A libmysqlclient16 - MySQL database client library > i libv4l-0 - Collection of video4linux support > librarie > i A mysql-common - MySQL database common files, > e.g. /etc/mys Yes. Note that a "simple" query like that (e.g. (aptitude search '~S ~i ~Aunstable')) doesn't necessarily work with a mixed testing/unstable (or more complex) system, since package versions can be available from multiple archives. The backports project has a naming policy in place so their package versions are never the same as an official package version, so this simple query works as is. I tend to use queries like this on my mixed system to determine how far I've drifted from stable. Right now, on my laptop, 686/1312 packages are from stable, 100/1312 are from backports, and 526/1312 are from testing. Once I'm running "mostly" testing, I'll probably just read the current draft of the release notes and do an upgrade at that time. It looks like that might be soon, too. ghc6 is having fits compiling my code that uses the HDBC-PostgreSQL package and I think it might be do to some change in symbol generation or mangling between gcc-4.3.2 (stable, currently installed) and gcc-4.4.4 (testing, and what ghc6 and libghc6-* packages are compiled with). -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. bss(a)iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/ \_/ |