When is best time to upgrade lenny to squeeze
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From: Paul Cartwright on 21 Jul 2010 07:10 On Wed July 21 2010, Jordon Bedwell wrote: > This reminds me of when they started messing with GNOME and started > switching defaults and ended up alienating a lot of true Linux users (this > was mostly Ubuntu using their sway to do it.) I was always a KDE user, through a few years of learning SUSE, and then when I started Debian, 2 years ago. I had a problem with debian logging me out when my wifes switched users, and i solved the problem by switching my desktop to gnome, it no longer logged me out. I learned to like gnome, so I stick with it! but she still uses KDE3. So I guess my choices are to get her to use gnome now, or wait for the squeeze upgrade & make her use KDE4.. -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 Registered Ubuntu User #12459 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201007210708.41198.debian(a)pcartwright.com
From: Lisi on 21 Jul 2010 09:50 On Wednesday 21 July 2010 10:45:06 Sjoerd Hardeman wrote: > In > the long run, you'll either have to accept KDE4 or use the fork of KDE > 3.5 at http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/. Or choose something else. CLI? Fluxbox? Another DE? Trinity looks promissing, but seems to be focussed on Ubuntu. Now that poses a real dilemma. Which to abandon? KDE 3.5.x or Debian?? Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201007211443.11898.lisi.reisz(a)gmail.com
From: Roger Leigh on 21 Jul 2010 12:00 On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 02:43:11PM +0100, Lisi wrote: > On Wednesday 21 July 2010 10:45:06 Sjoerd Hardeman wrote: > > In > > the long run, you'll either have to accept KDE4 or use the fork of KDE > > 3.5 at http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/. > > Or choose something else. CLI? Fluxbox? Another DE? Trinity looks > promissing, but seems to be focussed on Ubuntu. > > Now that poses a real dilemma. Which to abandon? KDE 3.5.x or Debian?? I switched to XFCE, and I'm not looking back. The awful bloat and unresponsiveness of KDE4 made it a breath of fresh air! It does almost everything I need and I'm pretty happy with it. Certainly much happier than I am with the state of current Gnome and KDE. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `- GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail.
From: Jordan Metzmeier on 3 Aug 2010 21:10 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 08/03/2010 08:57 PM, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: > > I always start upgrading well before the new release is made. I start by > upgrading the packages that I use most of the time (ex:- iceweasel, vim, > konsole, knode etc.,). That way if there is a problem I can report the bugs > and have them fixed before the release is actually made. > > YMMV > raju While this is beneficial to Debian, it is often not beneficial to the user (except for indirectly, since what benefits Debian, benefits the user). It would be best if this is done in a testing environment, outside of the actual production machine. - -- Jordan Metzmeier -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iQIbBAEBCAAGBQJMWLwBAAoJEKj/C3qNthmTKm4P92JsoLKcgCaR/nT3oFI6bdtF goKc/HZHB9S2O/FgJxQHBbmQaecNjw2Jr22lm1DYkmTbCRfe7PR2dniwGadtfs0M IJQuYLMbEAz+iYEgtL4VfqUjyeALWcrxhEkh4mgDh56Ha6cg4ohWqEtovVhWaxRe S0MMmrR28j3HrHcK4VUhbU5LJ8/cum4N5oKnjnLE19OrncmiVMl0F1cP2xJYbpb5 GBdpRE6S2egjF1yANQQQurO8G6mrAqvIsnTgT7qA3dGidrdCei8VQGK75rdJnfpD x7EKcUbISnWxeGlGmZTGDCzlWDzjQ14uQD0msPR6fHzCIfZph1DVA0iwMaQ+wH6P DnjQ6zbJq1Lw43rX2o1pJFs1cGM0gB3xl8FdgROHorTh1hgosWXU+94TB/U/PP8z 32ZbBxO5YdjvYrXWMBiub/2OUqYF16dLpcaF4gmdWINNOwIDVE6XFy7jRX1vAxkC +Hfbb0c2M2qE1bJneoaK5agEzuO1Ha/2Pm059XSRujFN8oOShvbgF0BWi0A0qGHz wsZ4dNYOfhAHQpdS7uTRKq6s0ZghsLiABJSYSqvUQO7nMOBPu9ntgNqEiyXK5vvh JpWoipSHWTpr9kYeVYT1eEKnReFE0xSyqDxG0PA5XQOQkqtoYL7RSQ4gxDtkfaW/ 1AqAOnzJETQkFPe1nDM= =BSrn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4C58BC01.5040103(a)gmail.com
From: Jordan Metzmeier on 4 Aug 2010 20:40
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 08/04/2010 08:31 PM, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: > > What do you do if you had access to just one machine (say your personal > laptop) and don't have the luxury of running multiple machines (one for > testing and one for production etc.,)? Sometimes, it is better/practical to > jump the wagon little bit ahead of time and do some testing, before > settling down with the stable version for the next 2-3 years. I think in that case, you should leave the testing up to the people who do. There is a wide variety of virtualization software now that can be used for this kind of testing. Virtualbox for example can run entirely off software, without the need for virtualization support in the CPU (although much slower). - -- Jordan Metzmeier -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJMWggVAAoJEKj/C3qNthmT7yYP/A5h8yZPM8R8FTCvFMYBv2So +Mc2hddmTjUVqg8J1KB0J9HlJwjbitWZoKhipKR9Jp5vnZuaNIH6kL+Uk4na28+8 Smqyv9pAKoHW1WicY4DkMlb0KtzcCFrdghx5XR0lXzvevUBXFudPMfLNcBn4wuft OCe/4gDgGphPMAR3znOr3dtVGmrTEbI6C3RNTklYJDI7l/uVL1F6TnsHlZnHk+PD Je7qF/bVk/dc/HpEYJaUdAu1iSmtVxnUvgKnhog0wpmNHyHpAjIa6gihGBwZUNZE eTaXuTjcqivHjtVJffam3WQGCYb8yb9ABSzC9OCbfnVwybG8mbKuNCr7jtktUTZq 4kufMGtosAP3a+/V7nukGHM/QqH2i0aGgOz45WYoG9WqmrEFIaq9iE9KThP4IeVw zU+Sw7JGjzECCUvYF9NBqjr58CFt04DArP6xbxjFHntoAlCUFIs4yVNpHAW50Gy2 dpezfdNCpmK1mB/lUplfL/IksbXCyXUhQ7zi1Yq0Wh+Kvn6mJL8cDPxlGJPuddHw enxrZhX1HBHMmDnJt6iDbpBG7H57x/gPzUJtjhM4BaI8kAJO6PTty9K6M3auXcT5 vOVA1xZ2gFXmmSyKlh0jJ/ZXAUw1PliZkHNrd3YJDGEZEycPqMbfKznqAQhzshri RYeiOuG3b0RO1S4FRoND =xSOU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4C5A0815.4070601(a)gmail.com |