From: jonny on
In article <spambucket-544BBB.00131625012010(a)news.individual.net>,
Andrew Collier <spambucket(a)intensity.org.uk> wrote:

> Why would you carry an iSlate with you instead of a MacBook?

Because the "iSlate" is not aimed at MacBook owners, it meant for people
in the the Windows world, the people who would never consider buying a
MacBook.

The reason the iPod/iTouch/iPhone have been such a success is they exist
outside the Macintosh world, which is viewed with suspicion by the
majority of Windows users, and people who have preconceptions about the
Mac

In fact, I don't think Steve Jobs or Apple really want to make a tablet
, it's the success of iPhone OS devices has spurred them on to take the
platform further. In fact there is the danger that the iPhone OS could
overshadow the Mac OS.
From: Gordon on
On Jan 25, 12:13 am, Andrew Collier <spambuc...(a)intensity.org.uk>
wrote:
> Apple are not the first to release a tablet form-factor computer. But by
> and large, the others have not found a significant market. What is
> different about Apple building one, and why are people assuming that
> they will succeed where the rest of the industry has failed?

Tablets to date have been basically laptops with the keyboard lopped
off. Novel input device aside they offered nothing new, cost more,
were harder to use and did nothing that a much cheaper laptop with a
real keyboard could do.

What little information that has leaked about the Apple tablet suggest
they are thinking along more radical lines. I don't know if the
device will succeed or not, but I do know it's not going to be a
Macbook with the keyboard lopped off.
From: Jim on
On 2010-01-26, Gordon <gordon.mcvey(a)ntlworld.com> wrote:
> On Jan 25, 12:13�am, Andrew Collier <spambuc...(a)intensity.org.uk>
> wrote:
>> Apple are not the first to release a tablet form-factor computer. But by
>> and large, the others have not found a significant market. What is
>> different about Apple building one, and why are people assuming that
>> they will succeed where the rest of the industry has failed?
>
> Tablets to date have been basically laptops with the keyboard lopped
> off. Novel input device aside they offered nothing new, cost more,
> were harder to use and did nothing that a much cheaper laptop with a
> real keyboard could do.
>
> What little information that has leaked about the Apple tablet suggest
> they are thinking along more radical lines. I don't know if the
> device will succeed or not, but I do know it's not going to be a
> Macbook with the keyboard lopped off.

It seems to me that the mistake that most tablet manufacturers make is that
they use what is essentially a desktop OS (Windows XP or 7) in a
non-Desktop environment. I know that both XP and W7 have tablet varients,
but they're still basically a mouse-and-keyboard oriented input method OS.

I strongly suspect that the Apple Tablet (assuming it's real) will use the
much mor finger friendly iPhone OS (or a variation).

Jim
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From: Dr Geoff Hone on
On Tue, 26 Jan 2010 01:22:45 -0800 (PST), Gordon
<gordon.mcvey(a)ntlworld.com> wrote:


>Tablets to date have been basically laptops with the keyboard lopped
>off. Novel input device aside they offered nothing new, cost more,
>were harder to use and did nothing that a much cheaper laptop with a
>real keyboard could do.

Actually, there is some research that can be done with a tablet that
is *almost* impossible to do with an ordinary laptop. By *almost*, I
mean that if you hook a touch-screen monitor to a laptop (any make) yo
can do the same research, but you lose the portability advantage of a
tablet.
Take a look at the work done by Frank Durso at U. Texas to see what I
mean in detail.
Geoff
From: Tim Streater on
On 26/01/2010 09:22, Gordon wrote:
> On Jan 25, 12:13 am, Andrew Collier<spambuc...(a)intensity.org.uk>
> wrote:
>> Apple are not the first to release a tablet form-factor computer. But by
>> and large, the others have not found a significant market. What is
>> different about Apple building one, and why are people assuming that
>> they will succeed where the rest of the industry has failed?
>
> Tablets to date have been basically laptops with the keyboard lopped
> off. Novel input device aside they offered nothing new, cost more,
> were harder to use and did nothing that a much cheaper laptop with a
> real keyboard could do.
>
> What little information that has leaked about the Apple tablet suggest
> they are thinking along more radical lines. I don't know if the
> device will succeed or not, but I do know it's not going to be a
> Macbook with the keyboard lopped off.

Let's hope so. So far, there are two types of portable device. There's
the laptop, with its keyboard, that you carry in a bag, for the most
part. Then there's the disorganiser, that you carry in your pocket. So
far, I'm puzzled about why something in between should catch on. The
Newton failed, IMO, because it *was* in between. Sure, you could have it
in a pouch on your belt, if you didn't mind looking like a twerp.

So this promises to be interesting.

--
Tim

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