From: D.M. Procida on
Tim Streater <timstreater(a)waitrose.com> wrote:

> Let's hope so. So far, there are two types of portable device. There's
> the laptop, with its keyboard, that you carry in a bag, for the most
> part. Then there's the disorganiser, that you carry in your pocket. So
> far, I'm puzzled about why something in between should catch on. The
> Newton failed, IMO, because it *was* in between. Sure, you could have it
> in a pouch on your belt, if you didn't mind looking like a twerp.

You're right that the Newton was in-between, and that it's no longer
with us.

But it's very far from clear that it failed because of that; in fact,
until it started to seem that all of Apple was about to fail, and
shortly before Steve Jobs's coup de grace, the Newton looked like it had
a promising future.

Secondly, just about everything that Apple has done that has been really
successful has been something that didn't conform to expectations and
that skeptics thought people wouldn't use because they'd look like
twerps.

Daniele
From: Jim on
On 2010-01-26, D.M. Procida <real-not-anti-spam-address(a)apple-juice.co.uk> wrote:
>
> You're right that the Newton was in-between, and that it's no longer
> with us.
>
> But it's very far from clear that it failed because of that; in fact,
> until it started to seem that all of Apple was about to fail, and
> shortly before Steve Jobs's coup de grace, the Newton looked like it had
> a promising future.

The single, unfixable thing about the Newton was that it was a John Sculley
product and therefore had to die.

> Secondly, just about everything that Apple has done that has been really
> successful has been something that didn't conform to expectations and
> that skeptics thought people wouldn't use because they'd look like
> twerps.

I'm now allowing myself to become quitely expectant about tomorrow's event.
I may not actually buy what they show, but it should be interesting
nonetheless. If it's 90minutes of iDVD themes then...well.

Jim
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From: Tim Streater on
On 26/01/2010 10:55, D.M. Procida wrote:
> Tim Streater<timstreater(a)waitrose.com> wrote:
>
>> Let's hope so. So far, there are two types of portable device. There's
>> the laptop, with its keyboard, that you carry in a bag, for the most
>> part. Then there's the disorganiser, that you carry in your pocket. So
>> far, I'm puzzled about why something in between should catch on. The
>> Newton failed, IMO, because it *was* in between. Sure, you could have it
>> in a pouch on your belt, if you didn't mind looking like a twerp.
>
> You're right that the Newton was in-between, and that it's no longer
> with us.
>
> But it's very far from clear that it failed because of that; in fact,
> until it started to seem that all of Apple was about to fail, and
> shortly before Steve Jobs's coup de grace, the Newton looked like it had
> a promising future.

As I understand it they sold 80k units on Day 1, and another 80k during
its remaining life. Something was missing.

> Secondly, just about everything that Apple has done that has been really
> successful has been something that didn't conform to expectations and
> that skeptics thought people wouldn't use because they'd look like
> twerps.

:-) Like it, like it.

Yes, I'd agree with you. But it'll be a while before that becomes clear
for the new device.

Personally I have no iPod or iPhone, and only a cheap Tesco PAYG mobile
and a flaky Tungsten E2. Anything I buy to replace these must go in my
pocket (else I won't take it everywhere, in which case it fails), must
have the functions of the four devices listed above as well as sat-nav,
and must be cheap to buy *and run* else it doesn't get past my in-house
purchasing dept (SWMBO).

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From: Ben Shimmin on
Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com>:

[...]

> Doesn't the Kindle have a 3G connection that's part of its purchase price,
> no monthly subscription required? That would be nice. Unlikely, but nice.

That *would* be nice. I just can't see it happening, though. Perhaps
they'll go the same way as the iPhone, and offer a non-contract one at a
higher price.

> Assuming it exists, I still see the Tablet as running the iPhone OS and able
> to run multiple iPhone apps at the same time in iPhone-sized windows. I'm
> sure the OS and GUI will be essentially an extension of the iPhone/iPod
> touch's. It will also run Tablet apps (iPhone apps in bigger windows).
>
> And you know what? I might just buy that if it isn't priced too high.
>
> Ha.

I pretty much 100% decided to buy one after we spent Christmas with an
extra old white MacBook knocking around the house; I found it so handy
just having a device with decent battery life (better than my MBP's,
and also not hooked up to monitors and external hard disks and whatnot)
for casual email, web browsing, and watching TV and films. I assume
the iSplablet will be able to do all of that pretty well, in addition to
all kinds of other cool stuff.

What I'd really like: you know how the MacBook Air can access the
optical drive of a remote Mac? If the iSplablet could do that too,
I could watch DVDs without having to get them into iTunes first.
(I think the chances of this happening are slim to none.)

b.

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From: Chris Ridd on
On 2010-01-26 11:06:56 +0000, Jim said:

> I'm now allowing myself to become quitely expectant about tomorrow's event.
> I may not actually buy what they show, but it should be interesting
> nonetheless. If it's 90minutes of iDVD themes then...well.

Is John Mayer still flavour of the month at Apple? He might be prepared
to do an hour or so of audio noodling.

--
Chris