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From: Woody on 26 Jan 2010 07:07 Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote: > On 2010-01-26, D.M. Procida <real-not-anti-spam-address(a)apple-juice.co.uk> > wrote: > > > You're right that the Newton was in-between, and that it's no longer > > with us. > > > > But it's very far from clear that it failed because of that; in fact, > > until it started to seem that all of Apple was about to fail, and > > shortly before Steve Jobs's coup de grace, the Newton looked like it had > > a promising future. > > The single, unfixable thing about the Newton was that it was a John Sculley > product and therefore had to die. I think it was more than that, I think it was an option for microsoft and they were the ones with the money. Like it or not (and I didn't as I loved tthe newton), there wasn't that much of an option. > > Secondly, just about everything that Apple has done that has been really > > successful has been something that didn't conform to expectations and > > that skeptics thought people wouldn't use because they'd look like > > twerps. > > I'm now allowing myself to become quitely expectant about tomorrow's event. > I may not actually buy what they show, but it should be interesting > nonetheless. If it's 90minutes of iDVD themes then...well. I am too. I have ignored much of the hype up to now, as frankly I am not that excited by product launches any more, but if it is tablety, and half of what the pages say (and can be jailbroken, which I think is a given) and doesn't cost a lot in subscription charges for data, then I can see a place in the house for one. -- Woody
From: Jim on 26 Jan 2010 07:18 On 2010-01-26, Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote: >> >> The single, unfixable thing about the Newton was that it was a John Sculley >> product and therefore had to die. > > I think it was more than that, I think it was an option for microsoft > and they were the ones with the money. Like it or not (and I didn't as I > loved tthe newton), there wasn't that much of an option. As in "Microsoft wanted it killed"? Could be, but that might just have put a shine of officialdom on it. Jobs *hated* Sculley at that point in time, and I think he'd have killed the Newton come what may. >> > Secondly, just about everything that Apple has done that has been really >> > successful has been something that didn't conform to expectations and >> > that skeptics thought people wouldn't use because they'd look like >> > twerps. >> >> I'm now allowing myself to become quitely expectant about tomorrow's event. >> I may not actually buy what they show, but it should be interesting >> nonetheless. If it's 90minutes of iDVD themes then...well. > > I am too. I have ignored much of the hype up to now, as frankly I am not > that excited by product launches any more, but if it is tablety, and > half of what the pages say (and can be jailbroken, which I think is a > given) and doesn't cost a lot in subscription charges for data, then I > can see a place in the house for one. Doesn't the Kindle have a 3G connection that's part of its purchase price, no monthly subscription required? That would be nice. Unlikely, but nice. Assuming it exists, I still see the Tablet as running the iPhone OS and able to run multiple iPhone apps at the same time in iPhone-sized windows. I'm sure the OS and GUI will be essentially an extension of the iPhone/iPod touch's. It will also run Tablet apps (iPhone apps in bigger windows). And you know what? I might just buy that if it isn't priced too high. Ha. Jim -- http://www.ursaMinorBeta.co.uk http://twitter.com/GreyAreaUK "Get over here. Now. Might be advisable to wear brown trousers and a shirt the colour of blood." Malcolm Tucker, "The Thick of It"
From: Jim on 26 Jan 2010 07:49 On 2010-01-26, Tim Streater <timstreater(a)waitrose.com> wrote: > > Personally I have no iPod or iPhone, and only a cheap Tesco PAYG mobile > and a flaky Tungsten E2. Anything I buy to replace these must go in my > pocket (else I won't take it everywhere, in which case it fails), must > have the functions of the four devices listed above as well as sat-nav, > and must be cheap to buy *and run* else it doesn't get past my in-house > purchasing dept (SWMBO). Sounds like you're describing an iPhone. It's not *exactly* a sat-nav, but it can kinda-sorta become one. The only question then becomes "what apps do you use on the E2 and are there iPhone equivalents". O2 now do a 20quid a month tarrif, which is starting to tempt me. When my 12 months free data expires (and I need to spend a tenner a month to keep it) I may just go over to that one. Jim -- http://www.ursaMinorBeta.co.uk http://twitter.com/GreyAreaUK "Get over here. Now. Might be advisable to wear brown trousers and a shirt the colour of blood." Malcolm Tucker, "The Thick of It"
From: Tim Streater on 26 Jan 2010 08:07 On 26/01/2010 12:49, Jim wrote: > On 2010-01-26, Tim Streater<timstreater(a)waitrose.com> wrote: >> >> Personally I have no iPod or iPhone, and only a cheap Tesco PAYG mobile >> and a flaky Tungsten E2. Anything I buy to replace these must go in my >> pocket (else I won't take it everywhere, in which case it fails), must >> have the functions of the four devices listed above as well as sat-nav, >> and must be cheap to buy *and run* else it doesn't get past my in-house >> purchasing dept (SWMBO). > > Sounds like you're describing an iPhone. It's not *exactly* a sat-nav, but > it can kinda-sorta become one. The only question then becomes "what apps do > you use on the E2 and are there iPhone equivalents". Yes, the iPhone is about the closest I've seen so far. But it'd have to have a *real* sat-nav function. Only a couple of games and a phone number database on the E2. The position detector for the screen (i.e., when you tap it) is now so bad that it's not possible to recalibrate it. And this is already a warranty replacement unit for the previous one. It's possible, therefore, that I'd do more on it if it worked better. > O2 now do a 20quid a month tarrif, which is starting to tempt me. Doubt if I spend much more than twice that in a year on the PAYG. -- Tim "That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted" Bill of Rights 1689
From: Jim on 26 Jan 2010 08:13
On 2010-01-26, Tim Streater <timstreater(a)waitrose.com> wrote: > >> O2 now do a 20quid a month tarrif, which is starting to tempt me. > > Doubt if I spend much more than twice that in a year on the PAYG. > Same here. But I'm finding web access and email everywhere I am to be quite useful and certainly worth a tenner a month to me, so I may just consider the 20quid plan. Mind you, I've not yet spent the 20quid I put on it when I bought it in June last year. Jim -- http://www.ursaMinorBeta.co.uk http://twitter.com/GreyAreaUK "Get over here. Now. Might be advisable to wear brown trousers and a shirt the colour of blood." Malcolm Tucker, "The Thick of It" |