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From: George Kerby on 17 Apr 2010 21:22 On 4/17/10 6:32 PM, in article tkettler-747F69.19320317042010(a)news.eternal-september.org, "Thomas R. Kettler" <tkettler(a)blownfuse.net> wrote: > In article <C7EF702A.4368E%ghost_topper(a)hotmail.com>, > George Kerby <ghost_topper(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >> On 4/17/10 12:06 PM, in article >> C7EF62D8.5976F%nicknaym@_remove_this_gmail.com.invalid, "Nick Naym" >> <nicknaym@_remove_this_gmail.com.invalid> wrote: >> >>> In article michelle-12D5B4.08421317042010(a)news.eternal-september.org, >>> Michelle Steiner at michelle(a)michelle.org wrote on 4/17/10 11:42 AM: >>> >>>> In article <C7EF4405.59742%nicknaym@_remove_this_gmail.com.invalid>, >>>> Nick Naym <nicknaym@_remove_this_gmail.com.invalid> wrote: >>>> >>>>> JFK: Young, relatively inexperienced, >>>> >>>> He had served six years in the House of Representatives and seven years in >>>> the Senate when he was elected president. I wouldn't call that >>>> inexperienced. >>> >>> Compared to Humphrey and Nixon? >>> >> Or a "Community Agitat - er, Organizer"? >> >> ;-) > > Well, the RepbliCANTS are considering having a half-term governor from > Alaska who previously was a mayor of a town of 7000 run in 2012 so > what's your point other than the one at the top of your head? Oh, Tommy! You are so cleaver, beve! Maybe you and nancyP can have a date? That 'pointy' thing is so kewl! U rok, b-boy! C u in one-two and we will do lunch, otay?
From: Thomas R. Kettler on 17 Apr 2010 23:24 In article <C7EFC8F5.436D5%ghost_topper(a)hotmail.com>, George Kerby <ghost_topper(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > On 4/17/10 6:32 PM, in article > tkettler-747F69.19320317042010(a)news.eternal-september.org, "Thomas R. > Kettler" <tkettler(a)blownfuse.net> wrote: > > > In article <C7EF702A.4368E%ghost_topper(a)hotmail.com>, > > George Kerby <ghost_topper(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > >> On 4/17/10 12:06 PM, in article > >> C7EF62D8.5976F%nicknaym@_remove_this_gmail.com.invalid, "Nick Naym" > >> <nicknaym@_remove_this_gmail.com.invalid> wrote: > >> > >>> In article michelle-12D5B4.08421317042010(a)news.eternal-september.org, > >>> Michelle Steiner at michelle(a)michelle.org wrote on 4/17/10 11:42 AM: > >>> > >>>> In article <C7EF4405.59742%nicknaym@_remove_this_gmail.com.invalid>, > >>>> Nick Naym <nicknaym@_remove_this_gmail.com.invalid> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> JFK: Young, relatively inexperienced, > >>>> > >>>> He had served six years in the House of Representatives and seven years > >>>> in > >>>> the Senate when he was elected president. I wouldn't call that > >>>> inexperienced. > >>> > >>> Compared to Humphrey and Nixon? > >>> > >> Or a "Community Agitat - er, Organizer"? > >> > >> ;-) > > > > Well, the RepbliCANTS are considering having a half-term governor from > > Alaska who previously was a mayor of a town of 7000 run in 2012 so > > what's your point other than the one at the top of your head? > > Oh, Tommy! You are so cleaver, beve! Maybe you and nancyP can have a date? > That 'pointy' thing is so kewl! U rok, b-boy! C u in one-two and we will do > lunch, otay? Did I strike a nerve? BTW, if I'm a Cleaver, am I Ward, Wally or the Beaver? I hope you're not claiming that I'm June. You're reminding me of Eddie Haskell. -- Remove blown from email address to reply.
From: JF Mezei on 18 Apr 2010 00:57 Robert Haar wrote: > Carter was ineffective, but the Shrub was evil. Bush Jr is an idiot. Cheney/Rumsfeld/Wolfowitz/Rove are evil and controlled their Bush Jr puppet.
From: Davoud on 18 Apr 2010 05:34 Davoud: > > They are enraged that Obama would not have been elected if > > the people had not judged that Bush II was worst President in modern > > history (pushing Nixon down to #2). Tim Streater: > You're overlooking Jimmy Carter. Jimmy Carter was an unlucky President and also a victim of certain circumstances beyond his control. He will not be considered a great President, but he is a great man. Bad he was not as president and evil, certainly not. The Iranian hostage crisis is the most visible example. I was working for the government in the Middle East throughout, and I have intimate knowledge of this sad event. We had few options available to us in this situation; Carter chose the best and most honorable of them -- a well planned military rescue. But "the best laid plans of mice and men gang aft agley." Bad weather and bad luck caused the rescue effort to fail tragically. To say that that was Jimmy Carter's fault is revisionist history. The Commander in Chief is rightly held responsible, but he does not personally deserve the credit for battles won or the blame for battles lost--particularly those lost battles that involve the bravest of men and women taking the boldest and most extreme risks. Along came Reagan (who, tragically, developed Alzheimer's Disease on the day he left office). He chose to make an unconstitutional and despicable, vile, and dishonest deal with the Iranians for the hostages' release, using the hostages to help his political campaign and to celebrate his inauguration. Theft of the peoples' property, including sensitive cryptographic gear and may other weapons, and delivering it to the Contras to get money to buy other weapons and spares to deliver to Iran as a bribe is one example of his dishonorable (and impeachable in a sane country) behavior. (Of course, not all of the money went to Iran. Turns out American "hero" Ollie North and others stole part of it. It's worth remembering that North was acquitted on a technicality _after_ the felony charges were proved beyond reasonable doubt). There are other Reagan crimes and misdemeanors that will not be know to the public until long after any news value is weakened by time. Reagan went on to bankrupt the country, teach us that it is the fault of the poor that they are poor, teach us to revile the poor, but that we could help them by giving vast quantities of money to the rich in a scheme that his own VP had famously called "voodoo economics." He taught us that hatred of those who are unlike us and who don't share our views is imperative if one wants to be called a patriotic. He taught us that the kind smart, educated people who built this country are America's real enemies. An expert in forestry, he taught us that our entire air pollution problem is caused by trees. Then he went on to direct his CIA to create Al-Qa'eda and the Taliban. Fiscal and moral bankruptcy and the moulding of a political party of hatred, bigotry, lies, and mean spiritedness are Reagan's only enduring legacies. In spite of the long and uninterrupted list of Reagan failures, GW Bush has pushed Reagan into third place as the worst President in modern history. To believe otherwise is to believe that the emperor is wearing splendid new clothing. Davoud -- I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that you will say in your entire life. usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm
From: Nick Naym on 18 Apr 2010 10:02
In article michelle-CDBB1F.23111317042010(a)news.eternal-september.org, Michelle Steiner at michelle(a)michelle.org wrote on 4/18/10 2:11 AM: > In article <C7EF62D8.5976F%nicknaym@_remove_this_gmail.com.invalid>, > Nick Naym <nicknaym@_remove_this_gmail.com.invalid> wrote: > >>>> JFK: Young, relatively inexperienced, >>> >>> He had served six years in the House of Representatives and seven >>> years in the Senate when he was elected president. I wouldn't call >>> that inexperienced. >> >> Compared to Humphrey and Nixon? > > How about compared to Dubbya or Reagan? They weren't running at the time. -- iMac (27", 3.06 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GB RAM, 1 TB HDD) � OS X (10.6.3) |