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From: Kurt Ullman on 16 Apr 2010 10:36 In article <lybanon-30C027.09155516042010(a)earthlink.us.supernews.com>, Matthew Lybanon <lybanon(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > I think the present Republican opposition to everything the Democrats > want to do is disgraceful. "NO!" is not a policy. But the historical > record is what it is. Jst because the Dems won't give the GOP options any play and just because the media pretty much ignores them, too, doesn't mean that the GOP is just No. HR 3218 included prevention of cancellation, keeping kids on parent's plans, pre-existing conditions, allowing buying across state lines (which IIRC, it has been awhile already, the passed plan did not touch), ways to slow down increases in premiums (which were just about as likely to actually occur as the one in the passed plan.. don't get me started), etc. etc. etc. Both pretty much missed the best way to slow the increase, and that is to divorce the payment for insurance from the job, but that was asking too much. -- I get off on '57 Chevys I get off on screamin' guitars --Eric Clapton
From: Thomas R. Kettler on 16 Apr 2010 13:18 In article <ZJidnb5sU5Vz6FXWnZ2dnUVZ_tWdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, Kurt Ullman <kurtullman(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > In article <lybanon-30C027.09155516042010(a)earthlink.us.supernews.com>, > Matthew Lybanon <lybanon(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > > > I think the present Republican opposition to everything the Democrats > > want to do is disgraceful. "NO!" is not a policy. But the historical > > record is what it is. > > Jst because the Dems won't give the GOP options any play and just > because the media pretty much ignores them, too, doesn't mean that the > GOP is just No. > HR 3218 included prevention of cancellation, keeping kids on > parent's plans, pre-existing conditions, allowing buying across state > lines (which IIRC, it has been awhile already, the passed plan did not > touch), ways to slow down increases in premiums (which were just about > as likely to actually occur as the one in the passed plan.. don't get me > started), etc. etc. etc. > Both pretty much missed the best way to slow the increase, and that > is to divorce the payment for insurance from the job, but that was > asking too much. While discussions about health care plans are off topic for comp.sys.mac.system, the buying of plans across state lines is a straw man. If you want to know what would happen, just look at credit cards. The three leading states for credit cards are Nevada, South Dakota and Delaware which conveniently have the least protection for consumers. If that occurs, the major insurers will simply set up shop in states where they'll be required to offer the least without any requirements on premiums. State commissions have too often been paper tigers when insurers increase premiums. Once that occurs, they won't have any power whatsoever. -- Remove blown from email address to reply.
From: Kurt Ullman on 16 Apr 2010 13:41 In article <tkettler-E2FB1D.13183216042010(a)62-183-169-81.bb.dnainternet.fi>, "Thomas R. Kettler" <tkettler(a)blownfuse.net> wrote: > While discussions about health care plans are off topic for > comp.sys.mac.system, the buying of plans across state lines is a straw > man. I agree, but it is a straw man that both sides pushed. -- I get off on '57 Chevys I get off on screamin' guitars --Eric Clapton
From: Davoud on 17 Apr 2010 06:47 Matthew Lybanon: > I think the present Republican opposition to everything the Democrats > want to do is disgraceful. "NO!" is not a policy. But the historical > record is what it is. It's Obama. They are enraged that a man with African blood is President. They are enraged at the American people for electing him president. They are enraged that Obama would not have been elected if the people had not judged that Bush II was worst President in modern history (pushing Nixon down to #2). An wide-awake voter is their worst enemy. They are determined to do whatever it takes--no matter what the cost to the country--to see that Obama fails. But he has already succeeded spectacularly and secured a place in the pantheon of great presidents, and he will not fail. At that just leads to further rage. The so-called tea party? Nothing new there. The rich have always schemed to find ways to get the poor to pay their taxes for them. Wealthy welfare scum. Davoud -- I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that you will say in your entire life. usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm
From: Robert Haar on 17 Apr 2010 10:32
On 4/17/10 9:07 AM, "Tim Streater" <timstreater(a)waitrose.com> wrote: > In article <170420100647179664%star(a)sky.net>, Davoud <star(a)sky.net> > wrote: > >> They are enraged that Obama would not have been elected if >> the people had not judged that Bush II was worst President in modern >> history (pushing Nixon down to #2). > > You're overlooking Jimmy Carter. Carter was ineffective, but the Shrub was evil. |