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From: Jolly Roger on 3 Apr 2010 22:10 In article <nospam.News.Bob-3ABA88.21415303042010(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Bob Harris <nospam.News.Bob(a)remove.Smith-Harris.us> wrote: > In article <4bb77348$0$32097$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com>, > JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot(a)vaxination.ca> wrote: > > > Davoud wrote: > > > ...when your wife's iPad is "out for delivery" today, but you still > > > have an _almost_ irresistible urge to be in the crowd at the local > > > Apple Store. > > > > > > I notice that the ipad has now been out for a few hours. The earth has > > not stopped rotating, and the sun is still expected to set on time tonight. > > > > Any news reports on this being the first day of the ipad ? > > I can't get it away from my wife, so I'm in a kind of limbo :-) Same. She has to sleep some time though. ; ) -- Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR
From: Jolly Roger on 3 Apr 2010 22:12 In article <qNudndPzOKP7eSrWnZ2dnUVZ_hKdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, Kurt Ullman <kurtullman(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > In article <jollyroger-D772A1.16425303042010(a)news.individual.net>, > Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote: > > > In article <HfadnfXd7aAkACrWnZ2dnUVZ_hwAAAAA(a)earthlink.com>, > > Kurt Ullman <kurtullman(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > In article <jollyroger-81E249.13354303042010(a)news.individual.net>, > > > Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > You expected the Earth to implode immediately similar to the Republican > > > > "health care reform is the apocolypse" campaign promises? ; ) > > > > > > Get back to me after 10 years when it is fully phased in. You are > > > being way too smug way too soon. > > > > You're saying the Apocolypse takes 10 years to arrive? > > Just to be fully realized. I guess I have at least 10 years before I have to step foot into a church to be "saved" then, huh? Good - the longer the better! [bunch of bullshit propaganda and pure speculation snipped] -- Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR
From: Kurt Ullman on 3 Apr 2010 23:14 In article <jollyroger-7DA821.21122103042010(a)news.individual.net>, Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote: > [bunch of bullshit propaganda and pure speculation snipped] Not hardly. All suggestions are backed up below. And this is just a first round look at the VERY low hanging fruit. > Just to be fully realized. You should see some things with docs > bailing out of MCare in the next 1-3 years (probably MUCH earlier if the > 21% pull back survives. The Center for Medicare/Medicaid Services had > expressed concerns about docs limiting the number of MCare patients they > will take before passage. Mayo Clinic, among others, stopped taking MCare patients in their AZ operations last year, before the most recent 21% cut. Ninety two percent (92%) of family physicians accept Medicare. Only about 73% of those are now accepting new patients. Cardiologists and many specialists have backed off on taking more than a certain number of Mcare patients. >When the changes in MCare Advantage (they have > pulled a lot of the subsidy to "punish" the insurance companies > forgetting that the subsidy lowers the premiums for those elders using > it) kick in. Polls show that those who had it LOVED it. The Bill as enacted cuts $100 billion from the Mcare Advantage program, that currently benefits 11million seniors. That money has to be made up somewhere. The elders will have to pay more or opt out of the plans. Not speculation, econ 101. > You see what is happening already since they pulled the tax games > they played with Part D so that companies wouldn't just stop their plans > and dump them all in Part D. Whether or not they should have happened, > they did and removing them will cause problems. Just last week Caterpillar, Deere, ATT, & Verizon all took large (100 million plus) charges to cover the new costs involved with removal of a tax break and all said they will be reevaluating continuing drug coverage for retirees. -- I get off on '57 Chevys I get off on screamin' guitars --Eric Clapton
From: Lloyd Parsons on 4 Apr 2010 00:02 In article <ZcGdnZHfWpm6mSXWnZ2dnUVZ_h-dnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, Kurt Ullman <kurtullman(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > In article <jollyroger-7DA821.21122103042010(a)news.individual.net>, > Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote: > > > [bunch of bullshit propaganda and pure speculation snipped] > Not hardly. All suggestions are backed up below. And this is just a > first round look at the VERY low hanging fruit. > > > Just to be fully realized. You should see some things with docs > > bailing out of MCare in the next 1-3 years (probably MUCH earlier if the > > 21% pull back survives. The Center for Medicare/Medicaid Services had > > expressed concerns about docs limiting the number of MCare patients they > > will take before passage. > Mayo Clinic, among others, stopped taking MCare patients in their > AZ operations last year, before the most recent 21% cut. > Ninety two percent (92%) of family physicians accept Medicare. Only > about 73% of those are now accepting new patients. Cardiologists and > many specialists have backed off on taking more than a certain number of > Mcare patients. > > >When the changes in MCare Advantage (they have > > pulled a lot of the subsidy to "punish" the insurance companies > > forgetting that the subsidy lowers the premiums for those elders using > > it) kick in. Polls show that those who had it LOVED it. > The Bill as enacted cuts $100 billion from the Mcare Advantage > program, that currently benefits 11million seniors. That money has to be > made up somewhere. The elders will have to pay more or opt out of the > plans. Not speculation, econ 101. > And all the rest were paying for those that had the ability to get an Advantage plan, it wasn't available everywhere. > > You see what is happening already since they pulled the tax games > > they played with Part D so that companies wouldn't just stop their plans > > and dump them all in Part D. Whether or not they should have happened, > > they did and removing them will cause problems. > > Just last week Caterpillar, Deere, ATT, & Verizon all took large (100 > million plus) charges to cover the new costs involved with removal of a > tax break and all said they will be reevaluating continuing drug > coverage for retirees. -- Lloyd
From: Sander Tekelenburg on 4 Apr 2010 08:45
In article <jollyroger-D772A1.16425303042010(a)news.individual.net>, Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote: > In article <HfadnfXd7aAkACrWnZ2dnUVZ_hwAAAAA(a)earthlink.com>, > Kurt Ullman <kurtullman(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > In article <jollyroger-81E249.13354303042010(a)news.individual.net>, > > Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > You expected the Earth to implode immediately similar to the Republican > > > "health care reform is the apocolypse" campaign promises? ; ) > > > > Get back to me after 10 years when it is fully phased in. You are > > being way too smug way too soon. > > You're saying the Apocolypse takes 10 years to arrive? He's right, you know. We've had all sorts of 'medicare' for ages in Western Europe, and well, everyone knows that we're nothing but a bunch of backstabbing commies overhere. -- Sander Tekelenburg, <http://www.euronet.nl/~tekelenb/> Mac user: "Macs only have 40 viruses, tops!" PC user: "SEE! Not even the virus writers support Macs!" |