From: Joerg on 29 Sep 2006 17:37 Hello John, > >>Can someone verify whether the National web site is truly broken? It >>sure looks that way to me. In addition to all sorts of snarled links >>and stuff, there's no obvious way I can find, say, the datasheet of an >>LM7824... had to go to Fairchild's site! >> >>I'm running Firefox under XP. >> > > How about this one... > > http://www.tyco.com/livesite/Page/Tyco/Home/? > > no products at all! I have an AMP part number and need the datasheet, > and it looks impossible to find it. > That's a disturbing trend these days, especially seen on Japanese sites. As if they didn't have to sell stuff anymore. But you can download all their press releases. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com
From: Frank Bemelman on 29 Sep 2006 17:41 "Joerg" <notthisjoergsch(a)removethispacbell.net> schreef in bericht news:c3fTg.237$NE6.25(a)newssvr11.news.prodigy.com... > Hello Frank, >> >> I wouldn't worry too much about those slower connections. You certainly >> don't want your first page to contain megabytes in graphics, but on the >> other hand I take it that you don't cater to customers anymore that still >> rely on pigeons as their only way to receive mail ;) >> > > No pigeon mail but there are situations when even a high-tech person is > put right back onto the turf WRT connection speed. For example, when > waiting for a flight at a fogged-up county airport. All you have is the > next cell tower and often they make you pay for every kilobyte of data > transfer. We had a story on TV about a month ago where a guy didn't > realize the latter. About $4100 later he did realize :-( Well, I would bluntly ignore all (?) those customers with a PDA bluetoothed to their cellphone, sitting in a crowded lounge of an airport. Those do not represent the larger part of your target audience, for a first contact. You already said that your website generates only a very small part of your business, so it doesn't make sense to cater those few who acces it with improper gear, 1200/75 baud voice coupled modems included. We live in 2006. But you could write some simplyfied pages in WML to cater those idiots. A total waste of time and energy, if you ask me. -- Thanks, Frank. (remove 'q' and '.invalid' when replying by email)
From: Joerg on 29 Sep 2006 18:09 Hello Frank, >>>I wouldn't worry too much about those slower connections. You certainly >>>don't want your first page to contain megabytes in graphics, but on the >>>other hand I take it that you don't cater to customers anymore that still >>>rely on pigeons as their only way to receive mail ;) >>> >>No pigeon mail but there are situations when even a high-tech person is >>put right back onto the turf WRT connection speed. For example, when >>waiting for a flight at a fogged-up county airport. All you have is the >>next cell tower and often they make you pay for every kilobyte of data >>transfer. We had a story on TV about a month ago where a guy didn't >>realize the latter. About $4100 later he did realize :-( > > > Well, I would bluntly ignore all (?) those customers with a PDA bluetoothed > to their cellphone, sitting in a crowded lounge of an airport. Those do > not represent the larger part of your target audience, for a first contact. > You already said that your website generates only a very small part of > your business, so it doesn't make sense to cater those few who acces it with > improper gear, 1200/75 baud voice coupled modems included. We live in 2006. > Believe it or not but there were a few occacions where people needed to get in touch with me with whom I already had a biz relationship. They didn't have my phone number or email on them so they did a brief web search on their handheld and then emailed (mostly using a Blackberry). Wasn't it Bob Dylan who called this lifestyle "the heart attack machine"? > But you could write some simplyfied pages in WML to cater those idiots. A > total waste of time and energy, if you ask me. > That is an excellent idea. It's only the contact info that would need this kind of simplicity. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com
From: Joel Kolstad on 29 Sep 2006 18:18 >> http://www.tyco.com/livesite/Page/Tyco/Home/? >> >> no products at all! I have an AMP part number and need the datasheet, >> and it looks impossible to find it. Surely you first needed to click on "Why We're Vital" !!! Seesh. Talk about being vain... A place I used to work at always started there press releases with, "FooCo, a leading supplier of essential tiddlywinx equipment to the smurferella industry, announced today that..." We internally tended to mock it, as we were neither a leading supplier nor all that horribly essential. :-)
From: John Larkin on 29 Sep 2006 18:21
On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 21:37:57 GMT, Joerg <notthisjoergsch(a)removethispacbell.net> wrote: >Hello John, > >> >>>Can someone verify whether the National web site is truly broken? It >>>sure looks that way to me. In addition to all sorts of snarled links >>>and stuff, there's no obvious way I can find, say, the datasheet of an >>>LM7824... had to go to Fairchild's site! >>> >>>I'm running Firefox under XP. >>> >> >> How about this one... >> >> http://www.tyco.com/livesite/Page/Tyco/Home/? >> >> no products at all! I have an AMP part number and need the datasheet, >> and it looks impossible to find it. >> > >That's a disturbing trend these days, especially seen on Japanese sites. The Japanese sites tend to make you load hundreds of pdf files to see what they have; the web pages often just list part numbers with no criterion for selection. >As if they didn't have to sell stuff anymore. But you can download all >their press releases. Actually, AMP.COM has the datasheet, but TYCO has no links that I can find to its AMP subsidiary. And the AMP site is a mess, as others have noted. Turns out the the AMP pcb-mount D9 connector I want costs $34, and the NorComp part is $1.63. This is the garden-variety pcb mount right-angle female, but with the .590 setback dim, instead of the usual .318. Life is strange. John |