From: Joerg on
Hello John,

>
>>Can someone verify whether the National web site is truly broken? It
>>sure looks that way to me. In addition to all sorts of snarled links
>>and stuff, there's no obvious way I can find, say, the datasheet of an
>>LM7824... had to go to Fairchild's site!
>>
>>I'm running Firefox under XP.
>>
>
> How about this one...
>
> http://www.tyco.com/livesite/Page/Tyco/Home/?
>
> no products at all! I have an AMP part number and need the datasheet,
> and it looks impossible to find it.
>

That's a disturbing trend these days, especially seen on Japanese sites.
As if they didn't have to sell stuff anymore. But you can download all
their press releases.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com
From: Frank Bemelman on
"Joerg" <notthisjoergsch(a)removethispacbell.net> schreef in bericht
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> Hello Frank,
>>
>> I wouldn't worry too much about those slower connections. You certainly
>> don't want your first page to contain megabytes in graphics, but on the
>> other hand I take it that you don't cater to customers anymore that still
>> rely on pigeons as their only way to receive mail ;)
>>
>
> No pigeon mail but there are situations when even a high-tech person is
> put right back onto the turf WRT connection speed. For example, when
> waiting for a flight at a fogged-up county airport. All you have is the
> next cell tower and often they make you pay for every kilobyte of data
> transfer. We had a story on TV about a month ago where a guy didn't
> realize the latter. About $4100 later he did realize :-(

Well, I would bluntly ignore all (?) those customers with a PDA bluetoothed
to their cellphone, sitting in a crowded lounge of an airport. Those do
not represent the larger part of your target audience, for a first contact.
You already said that your website generates only a very small part of
your business, so it doesn't make sense to cater those few who acces it with
improper gear, 1200/75 baud voice coupled modems included. We live in 2006.

But you could write some simplyfied pages in WML to cater those idiots. A
total waste of time and energy, if you ask me.

--
Thanks, Frank.
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From: Joerg on
Hello Frank,


>>>I wouldn't worry too much about those slower connections. You certainly
>>>don't want your first page to contain megabytes in graphics, but on the
>>>other hand I take it that you don't cater to customers anymore that still
>>>rely on pigeons as their only way to receive mail ;)
>>>
>>No pigeon mail but there are situations when even a high-tech person is
>>put right back onto the turf WRT connection speed. For example, when
>>waiting for a flight at a fogged-up county airport. All you have is the
>>next cell tower and often they make you pay for every kilobyte of data
>>transfer. We had a story on TV about a month ago where a guy didn't
>>realize the latter. About $4100 later he did realize :-(
>
>
> Well, I would bluntly ignore all (?) those customers with a PDA bluetoothed
> to their cellphone, sitting in a crowded lounge of an airport. Those do
> not represent the larger part of your target audience, for a first contact.
> You already said that your website generates only a very small part of
> your business, so it doesn't make sense to cater those few who acces it with
> improper gear, 1200/75 baud voice coupled modems included. We live in 2006.
>

Believe it or not but there were a few occacions where people needed to
get in touch with me with whom I already had a biz relationship. They
didn't have my phone number or email on them so they did a brief web
search on their handheld and then emailed (mostly using a Blackberry).

Wasn't it Bob Dylan who called this lifestyle "the heart attack machine"?


> But you could write some simplyfied pages in WML to cater those idiots. A
> total waste of time and energy, if you ask me.
>

That is an excellent idea. It's only the contact info that would need
this kind of simplicity.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com
From: Joel Kolstad on
>> http://www.tyco.com/livesite/Page/Tyco/Home/?
>>
>> no products at all! I have an AMP part number and need the datasheet,
>> and it looks impossible to find it.

Surely you first needed to click on "Why We're Vital" !!!

Seesh. Talk about being vain...

A place I used to work at always started there press releases with, "FooCo, a
leading supplier of essential tiddlywinx equipment to the smurferella
industry, announced today that..." We internally tended to mock it, as we
were neither a leading supplier nor all that horribly essential. :-)


From: John Larkin on
On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 21:37:57 GMT, Joerg
<notthisjoergsch(a)removethispacbell.net> wrote:

>Hello John,
>
>>
>>>Can someone verify whether the National web site is truly broken? It
>>>sure looks that way to me. In addition to all sorts of snarled links
>>>and stuff, there's no obvious way I can find, say, the datasheet of an
>>>LM7824... had to go to Fairchild's site!
>>>
>>>I'm running Firefox under XP.
>>>
>>
>> How about this one...
>>
>> http://www.tyco.com/livesite/Page/Tyco/Home/?
>>
>> no products at all! I have an AMP part number and need the datasheet,
>> and it looks impossible to find it.
>>
>
>That's a disturbing trend these days, especially seen on Japanese sites.

The Japanese sites tend to make you load hundreds of pdf files to see
what they have; the web pages often just list part numbers with no
criterion for selection.

>As if they didn't have to sell stuff anymore. But you can download all
>their press releases.

Actually, AMP.COM has the datasheet, but TYCO has no links that I can
find to its AMP subsidiary. And the AMP site is a mess, as others have
noted.

Turns out the the AMP pcb-mount D9 connector I want costs $34, and the
NorComp part is $1.63. This is the garden-variety pcb mount
right-angle female, but with the .590 setback dim, instead of the
usual .318.

Life is strange.

John