From: John Larkin on
On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 15:01:08 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

>
>Can someone verify whether the National web site is truly broken? It
>sure looks that way to me. In addition to all sorts of snarled links
>and stuff, there's no obvious way I can find, say, the datasheet of an
>LM7824... had to go to Fairchild's site!
>
>I'm running Firefox under XP.
>
>John
>
>

Wow. You can't see parts by package, but you can see them by package
volume! A TL082 can be as big as 11862500.0 mm3, which wouldn't fit
into my backpack. And look at the pricings... the price on the LM101A
ranges from $0 to $225.

http://www.national.com/VCatalog/view.cgi?command=toggleSort&attr1=Package+Volume&attr2=0&q=200&m0=Category&m1=SubCategory&i=PNumber&s2=PNumber%2F%2F1&s1=Price%2F%2F1&s0=Channels%2F%2F1&a3=Input+OutputType%2F%2Fv%3A8&a1=SubCategory%2F%2Fv%3A8&a0=Category%2F%2Fv%3A8&s=885552904899&a2=Channels%2F%2Fv%3A8&a5=Slew+Rate%2F%2Fv%3A8&t=0&m2=Bpn&c2=x%3A0%2F%2FPrice&c1=e%3A0%2F%2FSubCategory%2F%2F%3Aeq%2F%2FOperational+Amplifiers%3AGeneral+Purpose&c0=e%3A0%2F%2FCategory%2F%2F%3Aeq%2F%2FAmplifiers%2FBuffers%2FComparators&a4=Gain+Bandwidth%2F%2Fv%3A8&as=0&render=1&c=x%3A0%2F%2FPackage+Volume&domains=PNumber


They used to have a good web site, before they lost their minds.

Maybe TI has an opamp I can use.

Speaking of which, any recommendation for a cheap SOT-23 opamp, 4 MHz
maybe, +-5 supplies? Seems that we've purchased over 17,000 pieces of
LM7301 of late, at 90 cents each, and there must be a better deal
around.

John



From: Jim Thompson on
On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 20:56:21 GMT, Joerg
<notthisjoergsch(a)removethispacbell.net> wrote:

>Hello Rich,
>
>>>...
>>>My site is more of a little stake in the ground, didn't want to have
>>>that dreaded "under construction" sign. Word of mouth is what creates
>>>biz for me, not advertising. I mostly need it for email and FTP
>>>transfers. Sounds unbelievable but many companies (including some big
>>>ones) do not have FTP capability. Sometimes they are stunned when I then
>>>give them space on my site and it really works. Very nice for
>>>tele-conferencing.
>>
>>
>> I finally got around to viewing your source.
>>
>> Don't use Microsoft Word to make a web page. ...
>
>
>Yeah, I know that's one of the problems. MS-Word can introduce lots of
>bugs. The most smacking blunder was when it used auto spacing and IE
>(their own product!) blew up on it. Unbelievable.
>
>
>> ... You can code that in raw
>> HTML, especially with a site as lean and clean as yours:
>> http://werbach.com/barebones/
>>
>> I'd guess that the majority of errors that that checker reports are
>> artifacts of letting Microsoft get their claws into your site. ;-)
>>
>
>But writing straight HTML is almost like writing assembler code. I am
>currently poring over a stack of assembler pages. No fun for an analog
>guy. Filter stuff no less, yech.
>
>I'd prefer a simple writer. Have to look, I think one came with my
>hosting package. The ideal scenario would be if such a writer could also
>read web pages (including hyperlink jumps). Word can do that nicely but
>none of the others I tried could which is a bummer if you want to try
>things out.
>
>
>> As far as catching searches, try a keywords tag in the header:
>> <meta name="keywords" content="analog,analog design,consultant,
>> consulting,design,[etc...]">
>> With your keywords as a quoted, comma-separated list. (leave out the
>> '[etc...]'. ;-) )
>>
>
>Thanks, I'll try that. Although I do become a bit annoyed if I run a
>Google search and then lots of pages come up that really don't contain
>the words I was looking for in their bodies. It's becoming more
>prevalent these days.

FrontPage is pretty easy to use... provided you don't want any fancy
functions... which I don't.

...Jim Thompson
--
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
From: Joerg on
Hello John,

>
>>Can someone verify whether the National web site is truly broken? It
>>sure looks that way to me. In addition to all sorts of snarled links
>>and stuff, there's no obvious way I can find, say, the datasheet of an
>>LM7824... had to go to Fairchild's site!
>>
>>I'm running Firefox under XP.
>>
>>John
>>
>
> Wow. You can't see parts by package, but you can see them by package
> volume! A TL082 can be as big as 11862500.0 mm3, which wouldn't fit
> into my backpack. And look at the pricings... the price on the LM101A
> ranges from $0 to $225.
>
> http://www.national.com/VCatalog/view.cgi?command=toggleSort&attr1=Package+Volume&attr2=0&q=200&m0=Category&m1=SubCategory&i=PNumber&s2=PNumber%2F%2F1&s1=Price%2F%2F1&s0=Channels%2F%2F1&a3=Input+OutputType%2F%2Fv%3A8&a1=SubCategory%2F%2Fv%3A8&a0=Category%2F%2Fv%3A8&s=885552904899&a2=Channels%2F%2Fv%3A8&a5=Slew+Rate%2F%2Fv%3A8&t=0&m2=Bpn&c2=x%3A0%2F%2FPrice&c1=e%3A0%2F%2FSubCategory%2F%2F%3Aeq%2F%2FOperational+Amplifiers%3AGeneral+Purpose&c0=e%3A0%2F%2FCategory%2F%2F%3Aeq%2F%2FAmplifiers%2FBuffers%2FComparators&a4=Gain+Bandwidth%2F%2Fv%3A8&as=0&render=1&c=x%3A0%2F%2FPackage+Volume&domains=PNumber
>

They need to look at their IT operations. Maybe not as harshly as Intel
does that now though.

>
> They used to have a good web site, before they lost their minds.
>
> Maybe TI has an opamp I can use.
>
> Speaking of which, any recommendation for a cheap SOT-23 opamp, 4 MHz
> maybe, +-5 supplies? Seems that we've purchased over 17,000 pieces of
> LM7301 of late, at 90 cents each, and there must be a better deal
> around.
>

Ok, only 3MHz but how about the Thomson TS951? It's around 35c AFAIR.
Maybe they have one that's a little zippier but not much more expensive.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com
From: Joerg on
Hello Jim,


>>> ... You can code that in raw
>>>HTML, especially with a site as lean and clean as yours:
>>>http://werbach.com/barebones/
>>>
>>>I'd guess that the majority of errors that that checker reports are
>>>artifacts of letting Microsoft get their claws into your site. ;-)
>>>
>>
>>But writing straight HTML is almost like writing assembler code. I am
>>currently poring over a stack of assembler pages. No fun for an analog
>>guy. Filter stuff no less, yech.
>>
>>I'd prefer a simple writer. Have to look, I think one came with my
>>hosting package. The ideal scenario would be if such a writer could also
>>read web pages (including hyperlink jumps). Word can do that nicely but
>>none of the others I tried could which is a bummer if you want to try
>>things out.
>>
>
> FrontPage is pretty easy to use... provided you don't want any fancy
> functions... which I don't.
>

Yabbut, it's from MS and they could not even make Word and IE compatible.

Maybe I'll give it a spin anyway. After all, they created Works which is
a fine and robust SW that I use to maintain all my biz databases, lab
stock database and so on.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com
From: John Larkin on
On Thu, 28 Sep 2006 21:43:39 GMT, Joerg
<notthisjoergsch(a)removethispacbell.net> wrote:

>Hello John,
>
>>
>>>Can someone verify whether the National web site is truly broken? It
>>>sure looks that way to me. In addition to all sorts of snarled links
>>>and stuff, there's no obvious way I can find, say, the datasheet of an
>>>LM7824... had to go to Fairchild's site!
>>>
>>>I'm running Firefox under XP.
>>>
>>>John
>>>
>>
>> Wow. You can't see parts by package, but you can see them by package
>> volume! A TL082 can be as big as 11862500.0 mm3, which wouldn't fit
>> into my backpack. And look at the pricings... the price on the LM101A
>> ranges from $0 to $225.
>>
>> http://www.national.com/VCatalog/view.cgi?command=toggleSort&attr1=Package+Volume&attr2=0&q=200&m0=Category&m1=SubCategory&i=PNumber&s2=PNumber%2F%2F1&s1=Price%2F%2F1&s0=Channels%2F%2F1&a3=Input+OutputType%2F%2Fv%3A8&a1=SubCategory%2F%2Fv%3A8&a0=Category%2F%2Fv%3A8&s=885552904899&a2=Channels%2F%2Fv%3A8&a5=Slew+Rate%2F%2Fv%3A8&t=0&m2=Bpn&c2=x%3A0%2F%2FPrice&c1=e%3A0%2F%2FSubCategory%2F%2F%3Aeq%2F%2FOperational+Amplifiers%3AGeneral+Purpose&c0=e%3A0%2F%2FCategory%2F%2F%3Aeq%2F%2FAmplifiers%2FBuffers%2FComparators&a4=Gain+Bandwidth%2F%2Fv%3A8&as=0&render=1&c=x%3A0%2F%2FPackage+Volume&domains=PNumber
>>
>
>They need to look at their IT operations. Maybe not as harshly as Intel
>does that now though.
>
>>
>> They used to have a good web site, before they lost their minds.
>>
>> Maybe TI has an opamp I can use.
>>
>> Speaking of which, any recommendation for a cheap SOT-23 opamp, 4 MHz
>> maybe, +-5 supplies? Seems that we've purchased over 17,000 pieces of
>> LM7301 of late, at 90 cents each, and there must be a better deal
>> around.
>>
>
>Ok, only 3MHz but how about the Thomson TS951? It's around 35c AFAIR.
>Maybe they have one that's a little zippier but not much more expensive.

That's actually a nice part, and will handle +-5 supplies, which a lot
of cheap opamps won't. I can probably drop that into a lot of LM7301
locations. OK, one beer for you.

The LM7301 is rail-to-rail i/o and handles supplies up to +-18, so
really isn't a bad deal when you need big swings.

But why does ST name the TS951 file 5561.pdf?


John