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From: Jim Thompson on 22 May 2010 13:17 On Sat, 22 May 2010 09:22:50 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >Michael A. Terrell wrote: >> Joerg wrote: >>> JosephKK wrote: >>>>>> We have to use it as is (A), fix it (B), replace it (C), other >>>>>> _______________(D); (A/B/C/D) >>>> Jeorg, please answer the immediately above question. >>>> >>> My answer is "B". And they should let engineers do it because they (or >>> most of them) know how to fix a broken system. Politicians generally do not. >> >> >> Some politicains were engineers. >> > >True, but with engineer I mean active, not "got a degree twentysome >years ago and framed it". Carter was an "engineer" :-( ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | The only thing bipartisan in this country is hypocrisy
From: Jim Thompson on 22 May 2010 13:19 On Sat, 22 May 2010 09:38:20 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: >> On Sat, 22 May 2010 08:52:24 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: [snip] >>>> >>> Mine was made in Nagoya. >> >> Why do you insist that anecdote = data? > > >Why do you think the NUMMI plant was shut down? It might get a little >glimmer of hope now that Tesla wants to build electric cars there in a >little corner of that huge plant. But Toyota doesn't build there >anymore, that's now history. Unions at their finest. > >Oh, and AFAIK many of the Dogde trucks are made in Mexiko. Does anyone buy an American brand vehicle anymore? ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | The only thing bipartisan in this country is hypocrisy
From: krw on 22 May 2010 14:02 On Sat, 22 May 2010 12:38:36 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > >"krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" wrote: >> >> On Sat, 22 May 2010 11:54:31 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" >> <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >> >> > >> >"krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" wrote: >> >> >> >> On Fri, 21 May 2010 23:51:11 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" >> >> <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >"krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Michael A. Terrell wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Some people think all salt is bad, but it's called 'The salt of life' >> >> >> >for good reason. I can post pictures of the scars all over my lower >> >> >> >legs, if you don't beleive me. >> >> >> >> >> >> Vitimins D and E are also essential. They'll kill you too. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > I take a multi vitamin, and a potassium tablet each day. If it's a >> >> >choice between taking a few years off my life from too much sodium, or >> >> >dying within a couple years after surgeons slice off body parts from too >> >> >little sodium I'd rather die of a heart attack. >> >> >> >> Are you trying for a DimBulb award? Of course there are reasons to take even >> >> dangerous drugs. In the last several years of my mother's life, she was >> >> walking a tightrope of heart and kidney drugs. Too much of one caused heart >> >> failure, too much of the other caused the kidneys to fail. Both were required >> >> to keep her alive. Neither are given to healthy people, for obvious reasons. >> > >> > >> > I am on a lot of different medications. Most remove sodium from my >> >body. Being diabetic doesn't help. >> >> Of course you need to replace the sodium but you have to admit that this isn't >> normal. > > > According to the doctors I had, I was told I wasn't to replace the >lost sodium. That was my point. Like I said, I can post some photos of >the almost square foot of scar tissue on my legs. If the medications you're taking are removing too much sodium (and likely potassium, too) then you *do* have to replenish it. Most diuretics remove these electrolytes. Some can handle it normally, some not. Your case has nothing to do with whether or not sodium is harmful in large quantities. >> >There are short phrases mentioning >> >sodium in the documentation, if you wade through the 20+ pages per drug. >> >I am replacing what is being lost. Even with the amount I'm using, I >> >usually can't taste it. If I cut it back, I start getting sores that >> >won't heal. Go ahead and tell me you wouldn't use the required salt to >> >maintain your electrolytes. >> >> Go ahead and read the thread. > > > I have read it. I know my body, and that it needs more salt than >most people. No one is arguing that. You're generalizing *your* case. To help you read; in *general* high sodium diets are harmful. In *general* we ingest far more sodium than we need. This, in *general* is harmful. Like I said, some need to take even more dangerous chemicals to live. They would be better off if they didn't need them, however. That is, others shouldn't take them because the chemicals are needed for one to live.
From: Joerg on 22 May 2010 14:06 Jim Thompson wrote: > On Sat, 22 May 2010 09:22:50 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> > wrote: > >> Michael A. Terrell wrote: >>> Joerg wrote: >>>> JosephKK wrote: >>>>>>> We have to use it as is (A), fix it (B), replace it (C), other >>>>>>> _______________(D); (A/B/C/D) >>>>> Jeorg, please answer the immediately above question. >>>>> >>>> My answer is "B". And they should let engineers do it because they (or >>>> most of them) know how to fix a broken system. Politicians generally do not. >>> >>> Some politicains were engineers. >>> >> True, but with engineer I mean active, not "got a degree twentysome >> years ago and framed it". > > Carter was an "engineer" :-( > AFAIK he ran the family's peanut farm after his service in the Navy. I meant people who actually _worked_ as an engineer for a significant amount of time and accomplished successful designs there. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
From: Dave Platt on 22 May 2010 13:31
In article <F7ydnS1kP9mslGXWnZ2dnUVZ_uGdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >> Out here in the desert, you need to keep hydrated AND salted! You may >> not realize it, but just sitting around in even A/C with a <20% >> humidity takes a lot of moisture out of you. Get the temperature up >> to the nineties, and if you don't drink and eat salt, you get >> seriously ill, fast! > I agree. When I was in school, you were required to take a salt >tablet when gym class was out in the hot sun. I've had days I drank >three full two liter bottles of ice water in two hours, then two full >two liter bottles of Diet Mt Dew when I got home. A half hour later I >was starting to cool down, and needed another two liter bottle of water. It's not just hot areas that are the problem! When visiting a center dedicated to Antarctic research a few weeks ago, I read that the drinking-water demand for research field teams down there is about one liter per three hours per person! Collecting snow and melting it to provide water takes up a substantial portion of each working day. I doubt that the salt demand is proportionately high ("cool" sweating vs. sweating to cool down the body) but it's probably still higher than in a less evaporation-prone climate. -- Dave Platt <dplatt(a)radagast.org> AE6EO Friends of Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads! |