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From: Michael A. Terrell on 22 May 2010 16:01 "krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" wrote: > > On Sat, 22 May 2010 12:38:36 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" > <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > > > > >"krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" wrote: > >> > >> On Sat, 22 May 2010 11:54:31 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" > >> <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > >> > >> > > >> >"krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" wrote: > >> >> > >> >> On Fri, 21 May 2010 23:51:11 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" > >> >> <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> >"krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Michael A. Terrell wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Some people think all salt is bad, but it's called 'The salt of life' > >> >> >> >for good reason. I can post pictures of the scars all over my lower > >> >> >> >legs, if you don't beleive me. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Vitimins D and E are also essential. They'll kill you too. > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > I take a multi vitamin, and a potassium tablet each day. If it's a > >> >> >choice between taking a few years off my life from too much sodium, or > >> >> >dying within a couple years after surgeons slice off body parts from too > >> >> >little sodium I'd rather die of a heart attack. > >> >> > >> >> Are you trying for a DimBulb award? Of course there are reasons to take even > >> >> dangerous drugs. In the last several years of my mother's life, she was > >> >> walking a tightrope of heart and kidney drugs. Too much of one caused heart > >> >> failure, too much of the other caused the kidneys to fail. Both were required > >> >> to keep her alive. Neither are given to healthy people, for obvious reasons. > >> > > >> > > >> > I am on a lot of different medications. Most remove sodium from my > >> >body. Being diabetic doesn't help. > >> > >> Of course you need to replace the sodium but you have to admit that this isn't > >> normal. > > > > > > According to the doctors I had, I was told I wasn't to replace the > >lost sodium. That was my point. Like I said, I can post some photos of > >the almost square foot of scar tissue on my legs. > > If the medications you're taking are removing too much sodium (and likely > potassium, too) then you *do* have to replenish it. Most diuretics remove > these electrolytes. Some can handle it normally, some not. Your case has > nothing to do with whether or not sodium is harmful in large quantities. > > >> >There are short phrases mentioning > >> >sodium in the documentation, if you wade through the 20+ pages per drug. > >> >I am replacing what is being lost. Even with the amount I'm using, I > >> >usually can't taste it. If I cut it back, I start getting sores that > >> >won't heal. Go ahead and tell me you wouldn't use the required salt to > >> >maintain your electrolytes. > >> > >> Go ahead and read the thread. > > > > > > I have read it. I know my body, and that it needs more salt than > >most people. > > No one is arguing that. You're generalizing *your* case. To help you read; > in *general* high sodium diets are harmful. In *general* we ingest far more > sodium than we need. This, in *general* is harmful. > > Like I said, some need to take even more dangerous chemicals to live. They > would be better off if they didn't need them, however. That is, others > shouldn't take them because the chemicals are needed for one to live. There was a news story a few days ago that stated a recent medical study revealed that people tend to live longer on a high sodium diet, compared to low sodium diets. -- Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.
From: Michael A. Terrell on 22 May 2010 16:09 Jim Thompson wrote: > > On Sat, 22 May 2010 09:22:50 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> > wrote: > > >Michael A. Terrell wrote: > >> Joerg wrote: > >>> JosephKK wrote: > >>>>>> We have to use it as is (A), fix it (B), replace it (C), other > >>>>>> _______________(D); (A/B/C/D) > >>>> Jeorg, please answer the immediately above question. > >>>> > >>> My answer is "B". And they should let engineers do it because they (or > >>> most of them) know how to fix a broken system. Politicians generally do not. > >> > >> > >> Some politicains were engineers. > >> > > > >True, but with engineer I mean active, not "got a degree twentysome > >years ago and framed it". > > Carter was an "engineer" :-( From what I'd heard, Jimmy Carter never finished the Nuclear engineer course because he had to resign his Naval Commission after six years, to return to his family farm to run the business. The only degree he had was in mathematics. -- Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.
From: Michael A. Terrell on 22 May 2010 16:20 Jim Thompson wrote: > > On Sat, 22 May 2010 09:38:20 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> > wrote: > > >krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: > >> On Sat, 22 May 2010 08:52:24 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: > [snip] > >>>> > >>> Mine was made in Nagoya. > >> > >> Why do you insist that anecdote = data? > > > > > >Why do you think the NUMMI plant was shut down? It might get a little > >glimmer of hope now that Tesla wants to build electric cars there in a > >little corner of that huge plant. But Toyota doesn't build there > >anymore, that's now history. > > Unions at their finest. > > > > >Oh, and AFAIK many of the Dogde trucks are made in Mexiko. > > Does anyone buy an American brand vehicle anymore? I haven't owned a foreign branded vehicle since 1984. -- Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.
From: Jim Thompson on 22 May 2010 17:17 On Sat, 22 May 2010 11:08:17 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >Jim Thompson wrote: >> On Sat, 22 May 2010 09:38:20 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> >> wrote: >> >>> krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: >>>> On Sat, 22 May 2010 08:52:24 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >> [snip] >>>>> Mine was made in Nagoya. >>>> Why do you insist that anecdote = data? >>> >>> Why do you think the NUMMI plant was shut down? It might get a little >>> glimmer of hope now that Tesla wants to build electric cars there in a >>> little corner of that huge plant. But Toyota doesn't build there >>> anymore, that's now history. >> >> Unions at their finest. >> > >That might as well have been the underlying cause. I know several >businesses that closed to get out from underneath that. That was _exactly_ the cause. It was a joint GM/Toyota venture. Toyota refused to unionize. > > >>> Oh, and AFAIK many of the Dogde trucks are made in Mexiko. >> >> Does anyone buy an American brand vehicle anymore? >> > >I'd have no problems buying an American truck or large sedan such as a >Crown Victoria. Smaller cars, not likely. I admit to a failing... I once owned an LTD ('77) :-) ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | The only thing bipartisan in this country is hypocrisy
From: krw on 22 May 2010 18:10
On Sat, 22 May 2010 16:09:26 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > >Jim Thompson wrote: >> >> On Sat, 22 May 2010 09:22:50 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> >> wrote: >> >> >Michael A. Terrell wrote: >> >> Joerg wrote: >> >>> JosephKK wrote: >> >>>>>> We have to use it as is (A), fix it (B), replace it (C), other >> >>>>>> _______________(D); (A/B/C/D) >> >>>> Jeorg, please answer the immediately above question. >> >>>> >> >>> My answer is "B". And they should let engineers do it because they (or >> >>> most of them) know how to fix a broken system. Politicians generally do not. >> >> >> >> >> >> Some politicains were engineers. >> >> >> > >> >True, but with engineer I mean active, not "got a degree twentysome >> >years ago and framed it". >> >> Carter was an "engineer" :-( > > > From what I'd heard, Jimmy Carter never finished the Nuclear engineer >course because he had to resign his Naval Commission after six years, to >return to his family farm to run the business. The only degree he had >was in mathematics. His bios say that he received a Bachellor of Science at the Naval Academy. They don't say what sort of science. As far as a nuke engineer (from http://www.search.com/reference/Jimmy_Carter#Naval_career/): "Carter completed an introductory course in nuclear reactor power at Union College starting in March 1953." He did complete training as a diesel sub commander, but never served on a nuke. A hint of that is that he was discharged from the Navy in 1953 and bottle wasn't broken on the Nautilus' snout until 1954. So much for the yellow booties. |