From: Graeme on
In message <1jgae3d.1rgbrsr1o1u6b1N(a)de-ster.xs4all.nl>
nospam(a)de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) wrote:

> Graeme <Graeme(a)greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > In message <1jg9ip0.xwyiq51unfp5zN(a)de-ster.xs4all.nl>
> > nospam(a)de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) wrote:
> >
> > > Graeme <Graeme(a)greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > > > In message <1jg7rhe.yazdi91jdy3xtN%peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk>
> > > > peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk (Peter Ceresole) wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Unfortunately it is hard to answer that one at the moment as the
> > > > > > iPad isn't out. There is a risk that you won't be able to update
> > > > > > it without plugging it in, but until someone actually has one,
> > > > > > there isn't a way to say for sure, everything is just speculation
> > > > >
> > > > > Okay, thanks Woody. I was wondering about updates if she didn't have
> > > > > another machine, but I presume that Apple will have sorted that out,
> > > > > as the iPad is much more of a 'computer' than an iPhone, and people
> > > > > are much more likely to have it as their sole device.
> > > >
> > > > The description claims it needs a computer running a minimum of Snow
> > > > Leopard! Rules it out for me as I have a PPC :-(
> > >
> > > After upgrading Quicktime and iTunes to the latest version
> > > on Tiger G5 Mini iTunes is full of iPad mentions too.
> > > So it will probably work.
> > >
> > > iSteve is just trying to tell you
> > > that you really shouldn't want too,
> > >
> >
> > You are too late Jan, I somehow managed to misread the specs.
>
> No, you didn't misread.
> Apple.com -does- state that you need 10.5.8 minimum.

Which is what I'm running on my G4.

>
> > I am looking for a mobile device for emails/websurfing and for use with
> > my DSLR when travelling. I was originally thinking of a MacBook but
> > that's a bit over the top for what I want on the road. Then looked at
> > the iPod Touch but it's a bit small so the iPad looks perfect for my
> > wants.
>
> And 10.4.11 will probably do as well.
>
> It really would be nice if you could view your latest pics on the iPad.
> Guess it won't work out of the box,
>

It's one of the claimed uses though it needs an optional adaptor which seems
a bit daft.

--
Graeme Wall

My genealogy website <www.greywall.demon.co.uk/genealogy/>
From: T i m on
On Thu, 01 Apr 2010 21:39:02 +0100, Rod <polygonum(a)ntlworld.com>
wrote:

>On 01/04/2010 20:38, T i m wrote:
><>
>>
>> I was just trying to help someone with a Internet problem. It was a
>> new Virginmedia install and they had a W7 netbook. Not knowing W7
>> didn't stop me sorting them out. ;-)
>>
>> What I couldn't help him with though was how to see the stocks and
>> shares like he used to be able to do (On BBC2 apparently) pre VM cable
>> TV?
>>
>> Cheers, T i m
>>
>>
>Can't be certain what you mean, but try looking at this:
>
><http://www.ceefax.tv/>
>
>Not a lot of teletext on Virgin cable.

Thanks.

I asked 'if it was teletext' he was using previously to get this list
of stocks and shares and he didn't know?

I noted their old TV does have twin SCART sockets and I think he
previously had a Freeview box. Would that have also given him the info
he requires do you know please (rather than going back to analogue I
mean).

Cheers, T i m
From: Rod on
On 02/04/2010 00:09, T i m wrote:
<>
>
> Thanks.
>
> I asked 'if it was teletext' he was using previously to get this list
> of stocks and shares and he didn't know?
>
> I noted their old TV does have twin SCART sockets and I think he
> previously had a Freeview box. Would that have also given him the info
> he requires do you know please (rather than going back to analogue I
> mean).
>
> Cheers, T i m

Dunno. Sorry.

But I was thinking, use the W7 netbook...

--
Rod
From: J. J. Lodder on
Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> J. J. Lodder <nospam(a)de-ster.demon.nl> wrote:
>
> > > > > The description claims it needs a computer running a minimum of Snow
> > > > > Leopard! Rules it out for me as I have a PPC :-(
> > > >
> > > > After upgrading Quicktime and iTunes to the latest version
> > > > on Tiger G5 Mini iTunes is full of iPad mentions too.
> > > > So it will probably work.
> > > >
> > > > iSteve is just trying to tell you
> > > > that you really shouldn't want too,
> > > >
> > >
> > > You are too late Jan, I somehow managed to misread the specs.
> >
> > No, you didn't misread.
> > Apple.com -does- state that you need 10.5.8 minimum.
>
> But Snow Leopard is 10.6, Jan. Are you saying that 10.5.8 won't run on a
> PPC machine? Because that sounds wrong to me. And so you can support an
> iPad with a PPC Mac. As Graeme says, he *did* misread the specs.

That was the previous round.
I was saying next that the specs are probably exaggerated,
and that it seems likely that 10.4.11 (Tiger)
will do as well,

Jan

From: R on
Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:
> The computer is an evolution of things that came before and its
> invention wasn't particularly stunning for society for many decades.

You could argue that all inventions evolve from what came before.
So the computer is no different in that respect. The significance of
the computer is that it is the result of radical breakthroughs in the
way we understand mathematics and formalize reasoning, which
breakthroughs occurred in the first half of the 20th century. It is
fundamentally different to any other invention in that the computer,
properly conceived, is a general problem solving device (or, to be
more precise, class of devices). Nothing that came before was that.

Recommended reading:

http://www.comlab.ox.ac.uk/activities/ieg/e-library/sources/tp2-ie.pdf