From: R on 1 Apr 2010 08:01 Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote: > R <me32(a)privacy.net> wrote: > > Ok. Let's consider getting photographs out of a camera /yourself/. [...] > No you wouldn't - you would take the film out of the back of the camera > and toddle down to supersnaps and get them back 3 days later. I took great care to emphasize the word "yourself". > > > Which of the two methods is simpler and more streamlined? That > > is partly what I mean by computers being liberating. (And before > > someone mentions it - yes, then, as now, you can pay someone > > else to develop and print your photographs if you don't mind the > > loss of control and immediacy). > > People in general didnt mind I wasn't talking about "people in general". > Yes, for a few people it has been nothing short of liberating, but for > an equal number ithas been a nightmare. I accept that some people do find computers challenging. I certainly wouldn't object to something else being made available that they would find more suitable. What I object to is that something else being forced upon the rest of us, as if it's good for everyone. That's just as bad as complicated devices being forced onto people with simple needs. If that's not the way things are heading, I will be happy. But there is this meme developing that suggests the opposite. Perhaps it is all too far-fetched. Who knows? It does rather feel like we are entering a period of astonishing change though. > There are still lots of people that can't use them, and they are over > complicated for what they do, for historical reasons. Indeed! > I mean, I love them, but I know many people that dont. > > > That to me is liberating - making available > > to the masses what was once the privilege of the few. This is all > > possible because the computer is the ultimate you can think it > > you can do it tool. > > It isn't. It is a 'if you can think it and find someone else who can > show you how you can do it, and if you are capable of doing it, it will > do it tool'. > I know many artists that won't go near one, and can't understand them at > all. That is not their fault, it is the computer. > > If you are an author, back in the old days you would go to your desk, > start typing. now you go to your desk, start your computer, run your > word processor, navigate round your system to find your file, start > writing hoping that the application doesn't crash and lose all your > work, then save, make some backups. Do you remember Tipp-Ex? :) And do you remember fiddling about with ribbons? I'm amazed how people take things for granted these days. I still remember how my father had to go to the bank on a Friday afternoon to get money for the weekend because ATMs (another kind of computer) did not exist (people didn't tend to use credit or debit cards in those days either). Many people wouldn't even be alive today if it weren't for computers used in hospitals. The computer is the most amazing invention ever! > > And the iPad is not, by the look of it, such a > > tool. You will be limited by the device and by Apple, and not so > > much by your imagination. > > Again, if you are an author, press the start button, press your > application, start typing. How many words per minute do you think you could do on an on screen keyboard? Rough guess? :) > Sounds easier to me. [...] > This is not an ultimate device, any more than a comptuer is. But as much > as I love computers I know that they are a wall of fear for some Oh, come off it, "wall of fear"? Hehe :) Cheers, R.
From: Sak Wathanasin on 1 Apr 2010 07:14 In article <8dKdnQZ9Ofaa9y7WnZ2dnUVZ8rpi4p2d(a)brightview.co.uk>, David Kennedy <davidkennedy(a)nospamherethankyou.invalid> wrote: > Maybe even iSteve can learn from his mistakes? If you try to put every feature that might be needed in v1.0, it'll never get released. It's much better to release something with enough features that it is useable and add stuff later. I would class printing is a "nice to have" not "absolutely essential". -- Sak Wathanasin Network Analysis Limited http://www.network-analysis.ltd.uk
From: Chris Ridd on 1 Apr 2010 08:18 On 2010-04-01 13:01:52 +0100, R said: > Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote: > >> R <me32(a)privacy.net> wrote: >> >>> Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie(a)sometimes.sessile.org> wrote: >>>> Media (music, videos, books, podcasts etc) - yes. >>> >>> Yes - if you don't mind the poor quality. Poor quality sound, >>> low resolution video and books, etc etc. >> >> The quality of sound and video is much higher than was available to most >> people in the history of TVs and computers > > I'm struggling the recall those 3.5" cinema screens. It definitely isn't the same size as a cinema screen. But don't look at the absolute size, look at the effective size. You do hold the small screen closeish to your eyes, so the effective size is bigger than 3.5". -- Chris
From: David Kennedy on 1 Apr 2010 08:24 Phil Taylor wrote: > In article<o_-dnZSEmNFg5CnWnZ2dnUVZ8gBi4p2d(a)brightview.co.uk>, David > Kennedy<davidkennedy(a)nospamherethankyou.invalid> wrote: > >> Peter Ceresole wrote: >>> David Kennedy<davidkennedy(a)nospamherethankyou.invalid> wrote: >>> >>>>> They are superb cooks. >>>> >>>> They would improve immeasurably if they chose to use the Aga rather than >>>> just having it for show. >>> >>> Of course they *use* it. In the same way that in the mountains they use >>> a wood-burning range. But they need a proper cooker *as well*. >> >> How quaint. Still, electricity does have a certain charm... > > Has its drawbacks too. Tuesday night I had a power cut while cooking > dinner. This being an isolated country house it's not an uncommon > event, especially during snow storms, so I lit candles and got out a > couple of camping gas cookers to finish my dinner on. An AGA would > have been useful. Later on I went to sleep rolled in a duvet in front > of the coal fire, much to the entertainment of the dog and cat. The Some of our friends think it's "so quaint" that we have a coal fire and a solid fuel Rayburn. I've lost count of how many times we would have been very cold and hungry without them. > power was not restored until Wednesday afternoon. It took me an hour > to notice that two rings on the cooker were still on. Isn't it a good > job that I hadn't left the gas cookers sitting on top of the electric > cooker? > > Phil Taylor It might work as a way of telling you when the power is back on... -- David Kennedy http://www.anindianinexile.com
From: Geoff Berrow on 1 Apr 2010 08:32
On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 13:18:10 +0100, Chris Ridd <chrisridd(a)mac.com> wrote: >> I'm struggling the recall those 3.5" cinema screens. > >It definitely isn't the same size as a cinema screen. > >But don't look at the absolute size, look at the effective size. You do >hold the small screen closeish to your eyes, so the effective size is >bigger than 3.5". At about a foot, my iphone is the same relative size as the 42" at my normal viewing distance. Of course, I need my reading glasses to see it then. -- Geoff Berrow (Put thecat out to email) It's only Usenet, no one dies. My opinions, not the committee's, mine. Simple RFDs www.4theweb.co.uk/rfdmaker |