From: Sak Wathanasin on 11 Apr 2010 05:53 In article <1jgon7d.4o941qfx8re7N%peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk>, peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk (Peter Ceresole) wrote: > But installing *a* printer driver could surely be done from the Net? Well, you'd want to set up an infrastructure that could coe with on-demand installations. not just of printer drivers but of everything else. Which they more or less have with the iTunes store. But then your first time buyer won't even have a LAN, never mind broadband. so they'd have to make it work over 3G, which requires the co-operation of service providers. We're talking about something more substantial than a SIM update so the SPs will want something in return, and of course, you'd have to negoiate with every SP in every country you operate in. And so on - once you start to look into it, it's not as simple as it first appears. It's all doable, it just takes time and money. -- Sak Wathanasin Network Analysis Limited http://www.network-analysis.ltd.uk
From: Woody on 11 Apr 2010 07:16 Sak Wathanasin <sw(a)network-analysis.ltd.uk> wrote: > In article <1jgon7d.4o941qfx8re7N%peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk>, > peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk (Peter Ceresole) wrote: > > > But installing *a* printer driver could surely be done from the Net? > > Well, you'd want to set up an infrastructure that could coe with on-demand > installations. not just of printer drivers but of everything else. Which > they more or less have with the iTunes store. But then your first time buyer > won't even have a LAN, never mind broadband. so they'd have to make it work > over 3G, which requires the co-operation of service providers. We're talking > about something more substantial than a SIM update so the SPs will want > something in return, and of course, you'd have to negoiate with every SP in > every country you operate in. Why would you need cooperation with the service providers to download something from the applestore? you already download things from there. -- Woody www.alienrat.com
From: Peter Ceresole on 11 Apr 2010 07:22 Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote: > Why would you need cooperation with the service providers to download > something from the applestore? you already download things from there. Indeed. It would be absolutely Apple-specific, and it seems to me that it would be an absolute doddle for Apple to set up a download centre on this huge new datacentre I keep on reading about here. All it might need would be the cooperation with the printer manufacturers (or would Apple be writing their own?) which they should be more than keen to extend. -- Peter
From: Jochem Huhmann on 11 Apr 2010 15:10 zoara <me18(a)privacy.net> writes: >> I think neither the hardware nor the basic software or the concept of >> the thing precludes standalone use. It's basically just a matter of a >> software update and some extension of MobileMe to provide cloud space >> for backups. With Apple just finishing a giant new datacenter and >> iPhone OS 4.0 on its way I wouldn't be surprised if all of this will >> nicely fit together later this year. > > Me too. I feel like there might be something big on the horizon - the > "cloud" done right, with typical Apple polish and flair (and > restrictions). Well, since 4.0 is out now (in a beta version) and nothing of all this seems to be there: I'm disappointed. And what really pisses me off is that the shared folder support that was visible in some betas of 3.2 is missing from 3.2 as on the iPad and even seems to be totally missing from 4.0. Because any way of sane file management is really lacking on the iThings. There is no way to save files from the web or to upload something, there is no way to get any file from one app to another. I have on my iPod touch meanwhile half a dozen apps to work around that and all somehow suck, since every file they get access to from an app on my Mac or from the web stays in that app. I can live with this on my iPod but on an iPad I expect more. I want to get files on it from any computer and I want to exchange files between apps. I won't buy an iPad without that. Period. The current situation is not only not user-friendly, it is pure madness. I expect more from Apple than a nice UI. > I like Android's "Type your Google username and password and we'll do > the rest" setup process. Great when buying a new device to replace a > lost, broken, or old one. And it would be great to share documents or > get them on your iPhone or iPad just by pointing your web browser or > desktop client at Apple's datacentre. Edit a document on the desktop > Mac, then grab the iPad and head out the door knowing you can tweak the > document on the train... Provided it is on the iPad. And then there is no way to get it off again. To be honest, I expect a flood of cheap ARM based tablets running Android this summer and I'm pretty sure I will get one of these. The iPad is the first Apple machine I like the hardware but wish I could install another OS on it. iPhone OS may be somewhat fine for a phone, but not for a tablet. Jochem -- "A designer knows he has arrived at perfection not when there is no longer anything to add, but when there is no longer anything to take away." - Antoine de Saint-Exupery
From: Ian McCall on 11 Apr 2010 15:16
On 2010-04-11 20:10:22 +0100, Jochem Huhmann <joh(a)gmx.net> said: > there is no way to get any file from one app to another. That was a disappointing thing for me in 4.0. I want 'create task in Things' or similar, but they've not got any equivalent. Mail appears to be doing something along the lines of extensions/creator codes etc. (looks like beyond straight MIME), but it doesn't appear that this facility is available to anything else. Cheers, Ian |