From: Sak Wathanasin on
In article <1jgon7d.4o941qfx8re7N%peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk>,
peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk (Peter Ceresole) wrote:

> But installing *a* printer driver could surely be done from the Net?

Well, you'd want to set up an infrastructure that could coe with on-demand
installations. not just of printer drivers but of everything else. Which
they more or less have with the iTunes store. But then your first time buyer
won't even have a LAN, never mind broadband. so they'd have to make it work
over 3G, which requires the co-operation of service providers. We're talking
about something more substantial than a SIM update so the SPs will want
something in return, and of course, you'd have to negoiate with every SP in
every country you operate in.

And so on - once you start to look into it, it's not as simple as it first
appears. It's all doable, it just takes time and money.
--

Sak Wathanasin
Network Analysis Limited
http://www.network-analysis.ltd.uk
From: Woody on
Sak Wathanasin <sw(a)network-analysis.ltd.uk> wrote:

> In article <1jgon7d.4o941qfx8re7N%peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk>,
> peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk (Peter Ceresole) wrote:
>
> > But installing *a* printer driver could surely be done from the Net?
>
> Well, you'd want to set up an infrastructure that could coe with on-demand
> installations. not just of printer drivers but of everything else. Which
> they more or less have with the iTunes store. But then your first time buyer
> won't even have a LAN, never mind broadband. so they'd have to make it work
> over 3G, which requires the co-operation of service providers. We're talking
> about something more substantial than a SIM update so the SPs will want
> something in return, and of course, you'd have to negoiate with every SP in
> every country you operate in.

Why would you need cooperation with the service providers to download
something from the applestore? you already download things from there.



--
Woody

www.alienrat.com
From: Peter Ceresole on
Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:

> Why would you need cooperation with the service providers to download
> something from the applestore? you already download things from there.

Indeed.

It would be absolutely Apple-specific, and it seems to me that it would
be an absolute doddle for Apple to set up a download centre on this huge
new datacentre I keep on reading about here.

All it might need would be the cooperation with the printer
manufacturers (or would Apple be writing their own?) which they should
be more than keen to extend.
--
Peter
From: Jochem Huhmann on
zoara <me18(a)privacy.net> writes:

>> I think neither the hardware nor the basic software or the concept of
>> the thing precludes standalone use. It's basically just a matter of a
>> software update and some extension of MobileMe to provide cloud space
>> for backups. With Apple just finishing a giant new datacenter and
>> iPhone OS 4.0 on its way I wouldn't be surprised if all of this will
>> nicely fit together later this year.
>
> Me too. I feel like there might be something big on the horizon - the
> "cloud" done right, with typical Apple polish and flair (and
> restrictions).

Well, since 4.0 is out now (in a beta version) and nothing of all this
seems to be there: I'm disappointed.

And what really pisses me off is that the shared folder support that was
visible in some betas of 3.2 is missing from 3.2 as on the iPad and even
seems to be totally missing from 4.0.

Because any way of sane file management is really lacking on the
iThings. There is no way to save files from the web or to upload
something, there is no way to get any file from one app to another. I
have on my iPod touch meanwhile half a dozen apps to work around that
and all somehow suck, since every file they get access to from an app on
my Mac or from the web stays in that app.

I can live with this on my iPod but on an iPad I expect more. I want to
get files on it from any computer and I want to exchange files between
apps. I won't buy an iPad without that. Period. The current situation is
not only not user-friendly, it is pure madness. I expect more from Apple
than a nice UI.

> I like Android's "Type your Google username and password and we'll do
> the rest" setup process. Great when buying a new device to replace a
> lost, broken, or old one. And it would be great to share documents or
> get them on your iPhone or iPad just by pointing your web browser or
> desktop client at Apple's datacentre. Edit a document on the desktop
> Mac, then grab the iPad and head out the door knowing you can tweak the
> document on the train...

Provided it is on the iPad. And then there is no way to get it off
again.

To be honest, I expect a flood of cheap ARM based tablets running
Android this summer and I'm pretty sure I will get one of these. The
iPad is the first Apple machine I like the hardware but wish I could
install another OS on it. iPhone OS may be somewhat fine for a phone,
but not for a tablet.

Jochem

--
"A designer knows he has arrived at perfection not when there is no
longer anything to add, but when there is no longer anything to take away."
- Antoine de Saint-Exupery
From: Ian McCall on
On 2010-04-11 20:10:22 +0100, Jochem Huhmann <joh(a)gmx.net> said:

> there is no way to get any file from one app to another.

That was a disappointing thing for me in 4.0. I want 'create task in
Things' or similar, but they've not got any equivalent. Mail appears to
be doing something along the lines of extensions/creator codes etc.
(looks like beyond straight MIME), but it doesn't appear that this
facility is available to anything else.


Cheers,
Ian