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From: Phil Taylor on 2 May 2010 10:06 In article <1jhv702.6swf0s1a4ruibN%usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk>, Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote: > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > > > Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > Phil Taylor <nothere(a)all.invalid> wrote: > > > > > > > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > > > > > > > > > And the Bonny Black Hare is a trivial piece from the musical point of > > > > > view, but screamingly funny if you listen to the words (assuming that > > > > > you laugh at R4 filth). > > > > > > > > Trivial? It's in 14/8 time. Have you ever tried to sing it? > > > > > > Yes. it is fairly easy > > > > Ironic humour, yes? > > No, I have done it without any problem. > > > For those who don't know the piece: no-one without *superb* pitch and > > generally stellar voice control could possibly render it even minimally > > competently, not the way Swarb does it, anyway. > > That is rubbish. It really isn't very hard in the grand scheme of > things. Roland initially described it as "trivial", which is why I asked him if he could sing it. It's not difficult to sing if you're a musician, no. Now, if I asked you to make a guitar arrangement of the tune you might find the task a little more taxing. Phil Taylor
From: Pd on 2 May 2010 10:54 D.M. Procida <real-not-anti-spam-address(a)apple-juice.co.uk> wrote: > Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote: > > > Pd <peterd.news(a)gmail.invalid> wrote: > > > > > Martin S Taylor <mst(a)hRyEpMnOoVtEiTsHm.cIo.uSk> wrote: > > > > > > > The most famous is, of course, The Beatles' "The Girl With Colitis > > > > Goes By". > > > > > > Really? I thought (apart from Lady Mondegreen) the archetype of misheard > > > lyrics was "wrapped up like a douche". > > > > Are you saying it isn't that? > > No, that would be just stupid. "Plasticine people wrapped up like a > douche"? What kind of sense does that make? It's the only way to get them past security. -- Pd
From: Phil Taylor on 2 May 2010 11:15 In article <1jhtsjn.e50rsn1k467bmN%real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid>, Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > Phil Taylor <nothere(a)all.invalid> wrote: > > Such time signatures are common in Indian music. I think that's > > uniquely complex for an English folk song though. > > <snort> Uniquely complex? Nah - /unusually/ complex, yeah, but there's > more than the one like it, I'll bet. There are certainly lots of English songs where the timing is irregular, but that's usually because they are sung in free time and the note durations just follow the words. The only other song I can think of which has a fixed complex time signature like that is Byker Hill (the trad version as done by M Carthy, rather than the one the Young Tradition did). That's in 9/8 (which is not unusual, except that in this case it's divided up 2.2.2.3). Geordie Charlton had a pig, He hit it with a shovel and it danced a jig All the way to Walker Shore To the tune of Elsie Marley. And Elsie Marley itself is a perfectly regular 6/8 jig. > > There's nothing in folk music that's unique - can't be, kind of by > definition. Just 'cos we don't know about it doesn't mean it's not > existed (almost all folk music has been lost, again kind of by > definition). Yes. Phil Taylor
From: Woody on 2 May 2010 12:52 Phil Taylor <nothere(a)all.invalid> wrote: > In article <1jhv702.6swf0s1a4ruibN%usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk>, Woody > <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote: > > > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > > > > > Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > > > Phil Taylor <nothere(a)all.invalid> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > And the Bonny Black Hare is a trivial piece from the musical > > > > > > point of view, but screamingly funny if you listen to the words > > > > > > (assuming that you laugh at R4 filth). > > > > > > > > > > Trivial? It's in 14/8 time. Have you ever tried to sing it? > > > > > > > > Yes. it is fairly easy > > > > > > Ironic humour, yes? > > > > No, I have done it without any problem. > > > > > For those who don't know the piece: no-one without *superb* pitch and > > > generally stellar voice control could possibly render it even minimally > > > competently, not the way Swarb does it, anyway. > > > > That is rubbish. It really isn't very hard in the grand scheme of > > things. > > Roland initially described it as "trivial", which is why I asked him if > he could sing it. It's not difficult to sing if you're a musician, no. > > Now, if I asked you to make a guitar arrangement of the tune you might > find the task a little more taxing. Indeed, that is much harder, but as a singing piece is doesn't present any huge challenges. Ultimately I find that when it comes to singing (which I am not great at), it is more the phrasing of words that creates problems, rather than the timing. There are some words that are hard to put together, and some that the spacing, or breathing requirements are hard. It doesn't have either of those problems, it is nicely spaced out -- Woody www.alienrat.com
From: Rowland McDonnell on 2 May 2010 17:41
Phil Taylor <nothere(a)all.invalid> wrote: > Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote: > > > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > > > > > Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote: [snip] > > > For those who don't know the piece: no-one without *superb* pitch and > > > generally stellar voice control could possibly render it even minimally > > > competently, not the way Swarb does it, anyway. > > > > That is rubbish. It really isn't very hard in the grand scheme of > > things. > > Roland initially described it as "trivial", which is why I asked him if > he could sing it. It's not difficult to sing if you're a musician, no. Once upon a time, I was a musician - but I couldn't sing (I can't keep in tune when singing), so you're wrong about that for sure. I've listened to singers and the way Swarb sings that song, and I've listened to singers tell me what's hard and what's easy to sing. Bonny Black Hare is certainly hard to sing, if you want to emulate Swarb, because it needs such precise timing and pitch. [snip] Rowland. -- Remove the animal for email address: rowland.mcdonnell(a)dog.physics.org Sorry - the spam got to me http://www.mag-uk.org http://www.bmf.co.uk UK biker? Join MAG and the BMF and stop the Eurocrats banning biking |