From: Woody on
Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:

> Phil Taylor <nothere(a)all.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:
> [snip]
>
> > > > For those who don't know the piece: no-one without *superb* pitch and
> > > > generally stellar voice control could possibly render it even minimally
> > > > competently, not the way Swarb does it, anyway.
> > >
> > > That is rubbish. It really isn't very hard in the grand scheme of
> > > things.
> >
> > Roland initially described it as "trivial", which is why I asked him if
> > he could sing it. It's not difficult to sing if you're a musician, no.
>
> Once upon a time, I was a musician - but I couldn't sing (I can't keep
> in tune when singing), so you're wrong about that for sure.
>
> I've listened to singers and the way Swarb sings that song, and I've
> listened to singers tell me what's hard and what's easy to sing.
>
> Bonny Black Hare is certainly hard to sing, if you want to emulate
> Swarb, because it needs such precise timing and pitch.

Who on earth was talking about emulating anyone? I didn't realise you
were talking about impressions.

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From: James Jolley on
On 2010-05-02 23:08:17 +0100, usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk (Woody) said:

> Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
>
>>
>> Bonny Black Hare is certainly hard to sing, if you want to emulate
>> Swarb, because it needs such precise timing and pitch.
>
> Who on earth was talking about emulating anyone? I didn't realise you
> were talking about impressions.

I'm guessing he meant stylisticly.

From: Rowland McDonnell on
Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:

> Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Phil Taylor <nothere(a)all.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > > Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
> > [snip]
> >
> > > > > For those who don't know the piece: no-one without *superb* pitch
> > > > > and generally stellar voice control could possibly render it even
> > > > > minimally competently, not the way Swarb does it, anyway.
> > > >
> > > > That is rubbish. It really isn't very hard in the grand scheme of
> > > > things.
> > >
> > > Roland initially described it as "trivial", which is why I asked him if
> > > he could sing it. It's not difficult to sing if you're a musician, no.
> >
> > Once upon a time, I was a musician - but I couldn't sing (I can't keep
> > in tune when singing), so you're wrong about that for sure.
> >
> > I've listened to singers and the way Swarb sings that song, and I've
> > listened to singers tell me what's hard and what's easy to sing.
> >
> > Bonny Black Hare is certainly hard to sing, if you want to emulate
> > Swarb, because it needs such precise timing and pitch.
>
> Who on earth was talking about emulating anyone?

Me, right at the start of this point:

Message-ID:
<1jhue3t.1h0bf1w17fucylN%real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid>

is the post in question - my initial response to your claim that it was
easy to sing.

>I didn't realise you
> were talking about impressions.

I wasn't - just read the words I wrote, eh?

They're up at the start of this post, and I'll paste 'em in here just in
case you're too lazy to move your eyes back up the page, with emphasis
added to the point that you don't seem to have noticed up until now:

"For those who don't know the piece: no-one without *superb* pitch and
generally stellar voice control could possibly render it even minimally
competently, ***NOT THE WAY SWARB DOES IT***, anyway."

Rowland.

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From: Woody on
Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:

> Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > > Phil Taylor <nothere(a)all.invalid> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote:
> > > [snip]
> > >
> > > > > > For those who don't know the piece: no-one without *superb* pitch
> > > > > > and generally stellar voice control could possibly render it even
> > > > > > minimally competently, not the way Swarb does it, anyway.
> > > > >
> > > > > That is rubbish. It really isn't very hard in the grand scheme of
> > > > > things.
> > > >
> > > > Roland initially described it as "trivial", which is why I asked him if
> > > > he could sing it. It's not difficult to sing if you're a musician, no.
> > >
> > > Once upon a time, I was a musician - but I couldn't sing (I can't keep
> > > in tune when singing), so you're wrong about that for sure.
> > >
> > > I've listened to singers and the way Swarb sings that song, and I've
> > > listened to singers tell me what's hard and what's easy to sing.
> > >
> > > Bonny Black Hare is certainly hard to sing, if you want to emulate
> > > Swarb, because it needs such precise timing and pitch.
> >
> > Who on earth was talking about emulating anyone?
>
> Me, right at the start of this point:
>
> Message-ID:
> <1jhue3t.1h0bf1w17fucylN%real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid>
>
> is the post in question - my initial response to your claim that it was
> easy to sing.

ok, yes, it is easy to sing. The song.

> >I didn't realise you
> > were talking about impressions.
>
> I wasn't - just read the words I wrote, eh?
>
> They're up at the start of this post, and I'll paste 'em in here just in
> case you're too lazy to move your eyes back up the page, with emphasis
> added to the point that you don't seem to have noticed up until now:
>
> "For those who don't know the piece: no-one without *superb* pitch and
> generally stellar voice control could possibly render it even minimally
> competently, ***NOT THE WAY SWARB DOES IT***, anyway."

OK, well, I was refering to singing it, not doing an impression of
another singer, not really into the stars in their eyes sort of thing,
but having listened to him sing many many times, yes, I have heard quite
a few people who sing just like him, some better, some worse and no, he
doesn't have superb pitch, or stellar voice control, but he has a very
characteristic voice which is quite off pitch, but if he didn't it
wouldn't sound the same, it is part of the character.



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From: Jim on
Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:

> I am not talking about the two ronnies 'the right notes but not
> necessarily in the right order'

ObNitPic: that was Morecambe and Wise with Andre Preview.

And if he's starting to get offensive then it's generaly time to start
ignoring him for a while, as I've been doing.

Jim
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