From: Rowland McDonnell on 1 May 2010 13:31 Phil Taylor <nothere(a)all.invalid> wrote: > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > > > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > > > > > Phil Taylor <nothere(a)all.invalid> wrote: > > > > > > > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > > > > > > > > > And the Bonny Black Hare is a trivial piece from the musical point of > > > > > view, but screamingly funny if you listen to the words (assuming that > > > > > you laugh at R4 filth). > > > > > > > > Trivial? It's in 14/8 time. > > > > > > Umm. Really? Blimey. Okay, so it's one of those deceptive pieces. > > > Bloody Swarb, keeps doing that kind of thing. > > > > > > 14/8 time? I mean, what? Who came up with that one, and why???? > > > > > > 14/8. Hmm. That's like 7/4 time and I've never seen that either. > > > > > > I'm sure I'd be screaming `Where's the missing beat gone?' if I had to > > > play it... > > > > [snip] > > > > Nah, just listened to it again (more than one version). > > > > I can't beat out the time on it *at all*. Can't get a handle. > > The fourteen beats are divided up into groups of 3,2,3,3,3, with the > first beat of each group being a strong one. Try counting ONE two > three, ONE two, ONE two three, ONE two three, ONE two three. Ah! Oohhhh boy. No wonder I couldn't twig it. Ta. > Is it > just an odd coincidence that the third word of the song is "fourteen"? `...th' The scansion requires two syllables at that point - fourteenth, fifteeth, thirteenth, any of those would do just as well with pretty much the same sound as well as not mucking up the rhythm. So I suspect that it's `fourteenth' for the time signature and no co-incidence at all. > Such time signatures are common in Indian music. I think that's > uniquely complex for an English folk song though. <snort> Uniquely complex? Nah - /unusually/ complex, yeah, but there's more than the one like it, I'll bet. There's nothing in folk music that's unique - can't be, kind of by definition. Just 'cos we don't know about it doesn't mean it's not existed (almost all folk music has been lost, again kind of by definition). Rowland. -- Remove the animal for email address: rowland.mcdonnell(a)dog.physics.org Sorry - the spam got to me http://www.mag-uk.org http://www.bmf.co.uk UK biker? Join MAG and the BMF and stop the Eurocrats banning biking
From: Rowland McDonnell on 1 May 2010 13:51 Phil Taylor <nothere(a)all.invalid> wrote: [snip] > Translation here: > > http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=117836 > > Actually it's all meaningful. No nonsense at all! Hmm - and the version I've got my the Ian Campbell Folk Group (and another by Swarb and Martin UsualSuspect) /seems/ to my ears to be using different verses. Same chorus. Tricky to figure out, mind you. Rowland. -- Remove the animal for email address: rowland.mcdonnell(a)dog.physics.org Sorry - the spam got to me http://www.mag-uk.org http://www.bmf.co.uk UK biker? Join MAG and the BMF and stop the Eurocrats banning biking
From: Rowland McDonnell on 1 May 2010 13:53 Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > Phil Taylor <nothere(a)all.invalid> wrote: > > [snip] > > > Translation here: > > > > http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=117836 > > > > Actually it's all meaningful. No nonsense at all! > > Hmm - and the version I've got my the Ian Campbell Folk Group [snip] Lili Marlene - with different words: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SE5Cgvc3JqU> Rowland. -- Remove the animal for email address: rowland.mcdonnell(a)dog.physics.org Sorry - the spam got to me http://www.mag-uk.org http://www.bmf.co.uk UK biker? Join MAG and the BMF and stop the Eurocrats banning biking
From: Woody on 1 May 2010 16:59 Phil Taylor <nothere(a)all.invalid> wrote: > In article > <1jhtikv.1tnztbt1wemrurN%real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid>, > Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > > > And the Bonny Black Hare is a trivial piece from the musical point of > > view, but screamingly funny if you listen to the words (assuming that > > you laugh at R4 filth). > > Trivial? It's in 14/8 time. Have you ever tried to sing it? Yes. it is fairly easy -- Woody www.alienrat.com
From: zoara on 1 May 2010 20:37
Jim <jim(a)magrathea.plus.com> wrote: > On 2010-04-28, Rowland McDonnell > <real-address-in-sig(a)flur.bltigibbet.invalid> wrote: > > > >> > Does VO read out lyrics? > >> > >> If it does, isn't that almost a definition of a redundant > > > capability? > > > > That ability is useful since many song lyrics are impossible to make > > out > > when playing back a song. > > For quite a long time I thought a lyric in "Bohemian Rhapsody" was > 'Beelzebub has the Devil for a sideboard'. You aren't the only one. That's exactly what I heard too. -z- -- email: nettid1 at fastmail dot fm |