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From: Kue2 on 17 Jan 2010 16:02
U maybe need a third party disk management program
such as Acronis.
www.Acronis.com
http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/products/diskdirector/
to do what u want to do, as far as partitioning the hard-drive.
To add XP after Windows 7 is installed is considered a high level
task at the least. I would not recommend unless you are very tech savvy.
You will need to have a licensed copy of XP(install disk) & also a licensed
copy of Windows 7 (install disk). If you are going to have a duel boot have
XP-32 bit, keep in mine you will loose your restore points whenever you duel
boot.

"Alsenor" <alsenor(a)ggholiday.com> wrote in message
news:eepOJC7lKHA.5656(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Yes, I did defrag it as well, thinking of that reason.
> Then I ran the chkdsk.
> Still wants to be 300 GB!
>
> "Carlos" <Carlos(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:C61213E5-0226-44D3-A2D1-FE3B1007D86E(a)microsoft.com...
>> Alsenor,
>> Defragment your partition C: before trying to shrink it.
>> There may be at least a piece of a file near the "outer" boundaries
>> (close
>> to the 300GB) that needs to be relocated by defrag, closer to the
>> beginning
>> of the partition.
>> Once the partition is defragged (packed more densely) there should be
>> more
>> room for defragging.
>> Carlos
>> P.S.: I don't recommend installing XP after 7 because XP destroys its
>> boot
>> loader.
>> It is risky, it can be fixed, but definitely not a practice for the
>> normal
>> user.
>>
>> "Alsenor" wrote:
>>
>>> Charlie, I bought a new HP with W7 installed. Unfortunately they don't
>>> give
>>> you an installation CD with it any longer, nor does a home made "rescue
>>> CD"
>>> include the "factory reset" option we had in Vista.
>>> So I am a bit hesitant to abandon my original installation!
>>> All I dared do so far was create a few partitions via "godmode", but
>>> even
>>> that doesn't look exactly he way I want it.
>>> I want to make the partitions just large enough to hold the 2 operating
>>> systems, and use the rest of the space for "apps" and "docs" partitions.
>>> However, although the C partition (where W7 resides) is more than 88%
>>> free
>>> space, it doesn't let me shrink it to less than 300 GB. Why?
>>> I even ran a chkdsk on it, which made no difference.
>>> I appreciate your help!
>>> Al.
>>>
>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <Charlie(a)mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in
>>> message
>>> news:uwNQpF0lKHA.5656(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> > Install XP first. Then Install Win7 as a New Install, (custom) not an
>>> > upgrade. It will create the necessary settings to enable dual boot.
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Charlie.
>>> > http://msmvps.com/blogs/russel
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > "Alsenor" <alsenor(a)ggholiday.com> wrote in message
>>> > news:%23WvLNRzlKHA.2132(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> >> Can anyone give me a solid guide to creating a multi-boot drive?
>>> >> I have partitioned my HD and would like to choose between W 7 and XP.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> .
>>>
From: Carlos on 17 Jan 2010 16:52
Alsenor,
You mentioned "godmode" for managing new partitions.
Didn't you try the normal way, i.e., Disk Management?
Run it with Windows Key + R, diskmgmt.msc, then press ENTER.
Check if you can shrink your partition from there.
Carlos

"Alsenor" wrote:

> Yes, I did defrag it as well, thinking of that reason.
> Then I ran the chkdsk.
> Still wants to be 300 GB!
>
> "Carlos" <Carlos(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:C61213E5-0226-44D3-A2D1-FE3B1007D86E(a)microsoft.com...
> > Alsenor,
> > Defragment your partition C: before trying to shrink it.
> > There may be at least a piece of a file near the "outer" boundaries (close
> > to the 300GB) that needs to be relocated by defrag, closer to the
> > beginning
> > of the partition.
> > Once the partition is defragged (packed more densely) there should be more
> > room for defragging.
> > Carlos
> > P.S.: I don't recommend installing XP after 7 because XP destroys its boot
> > loader.
> > It is risky, it can be fixed, but definitely not a practice for the normal
> > user.
> >
> > "Alsenor" wrote:
> >
> >> Charlie, I bought a new HP with W7 installed. Unfortunately they don't
> >> give
> >> you an installation CD with it any longer, nor does a home made "rescue
> >> CD"
> >> include the "factory reset" option we had in Vista.
> >> So I am a bit hesitant to abandon my original installation!
> >> All I dared do so far was create a few partitions via "godmode", but even
> >> that doesn't look exactly he way I want it.
> >> I want to make the partitions just large enough to hold the 2 operating
> >> systems, and use the rest of the space for "apps" and "docs" partitions.
> >> However, although the C partition (where W7 resides) is more than 88%
> >> free
> >> space, it doesn't let me shrink it to less than 300 GB. Why?
> >> I even ran a chkdsk on it, which made no difference.
> >> I appreciate your help!
> >> Al.
> >>
> >> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <Charlie(a)mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in message
> >> news:uwNQpF0lKHA.5656(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >> > Install XP first. Then Install Win7 as a New Install, (custom) not an
> >> > upgrade. It will create the necessary settings to enable dual boot.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Charlie.
> >> > http://msmvps.com/blogs/russel
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Alsenor" <alsenor(a)ggholiday.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:%23WvLNRzlKHA.2132(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >> >> Can anyone give me a solid guide to creating a multi-boot drive?
> >> >> I have partitioned my HD and would like to choose between W 7 and XP.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> .
> >>
> .
>
From: Tom on 17 Jan 2010 18:00
I would recommend BootIt Next Generation over Acronis, it is much cheaper,
easier to use and it is almost fool-proof to use.

http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/bootit-next-generation.htm

"Kue2" <Kue2(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ub2Aih7lKHA.2188(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> U maybe need a third party disk management program
> such as Acronis.
> www.Acronis.com
> http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/products/diskdirector/
> to do what u want to do, as far as partitioning the hard-drive.
> To add XP after Windows 7 is installed is considered a high level
> task at the least. I would not recommend unless you are very tech savvy.
> You will need to have a licensed copy of XP(install disk) & also a
> licensed
> copy of Windows 7 (install disk). If you are going to have a duel boot
> have
> XP-32 bit, keep in mine you will loose your restore points whenever you
> duel boot.
>
> "Alsenor" <alsenor(a)ggholiday.com> wrote in message
> news:eepOJC7lKHA.5656(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Yes, I did defrag it as well, thinking of that reason.
>> Then I ran the chkdsk.
>> Still wants to be 300 GB!
>>
>> "Carlos" <Carlos(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:C61213E5-0226-44D3-A2D1-FE3B1007D86E(a)microsoft.com...
>>> Alsenor,
>>> Defragment your partition C: before trying to shrink it.
>>> There may be at least a piece of a file near the "outer" boundaries
>>> (close
>>> to the 300GB) that needs to be relocated by defrag, closer to the
>>> beginning
>>> of the partition.
>>> Once the partition is defragged (packed more densely) there should be
>>> more
>>> room for defragging.
>>> Carlos
>>> P.S.: I don't recommend installing XP after 7 because XP destroys its
>>> boot
>>> loader.
>>> It is risky, it can be fixed, but definitely not a practice for the
>>> normal
>>> user.
>>>
>>> "Alsenor" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Charlie, I bought a new HP with W7 installed. Unfortunately they don't
>>>> give
>>>> you an installation CD with it any longer, nor does a home made "rescue
>>>> CD"
>>>> include the "factory reset" option we had in Vista.
>>>> So I am a bit hesitant to abandon my original installation!
>>>> All I dared do so far was create a few partitions via "godmode", but
>>>> even
>>>> that doesn't look exactly he way I want it.
>>>> I want to make the partitions just large enough to hold the 2 operating
>>>> systems, and use the rest of the space for "apps" and "docs"
>>>> partitions.
>>>> However, although the C partition (where W7 resides) is more than 88%
>>>> free
>>>> space, it doesn't let me shrink it to less than 300 GB. Why?
>>>> I even ran a chkdsk on it, which made no difference.
>>>> I appreciate your help!
>>>> Al.
>>>>
>>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <Charlie(a)mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in
>>>> message
>>>> news:uwNQpF0lKHA.5656(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> > Install XP first. Then Install Win7 as a New Install, (custom) not an
>>>> > upgrade. It will create the necessary settings to enable dual boot.
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > Charlie.
>>>> > http://msmvps.com/blogs/russel
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > "Alsenor" <alsenor(a)ggholiday.com> wrote in message
>>>> > news:%23WvLNRzlKHA.2132(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> >> Can anyone give me a solid guide to creating a multi-boot drive?
>>>> >> I have partitioned my HD and would like to choose between W 7 and
>>>> >> XP.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> .
>>>>
From: Alsenor on 17 Jan 2010 18:07
Godmode actually opens diskmgmt.msc.
I thought that it would be the most reliable method, and it seems to work
much faster than my Acronis app.

"Carlos" <Carlos(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:E192BC65-921F-49B4-A8A1-0A4DEADFA526(a)microsoft.com...
> Alsenor,
> You mentioned "godmode" for managing new partitions.
> Didn't you try the normal way, i.e., Disk Management?
> Run it with Windows Key + R, diskmgmt.msc, then press ENTER.
> Check if you can shrink your partition from there.
> Carlos
>
> "Alsenor" wrote:
>
>> Yes, I did defrag it as well, thinking of that reason.
>> Then I ran the chkdsk.
>> Still wants to be 300 GB!
>>
>> "Carlos" <Carlos(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:C61213E5-0226-44D3-A2D1-FE3B1007D86E(a)microsoft.com...
>> > Alsenor,
>> > Defragment your partition C: before trying to shrink it.
>> > There may be at least a piece of a file near the "outer" boundaries
>> > (close
>> > to the 300GB) that needs to be relocated by defrag, closer to the
>> > beginning
>> > of the partition.
>> > Once the partition is defragged (packed more densely) there should be
>> > more
>> > room for defragging.
>> > Carlos
>> > P.S.: I don't recommend installing XP after 7 because XP destroys its
>> > boot
>> > loader.
>> > It is risky, it can be fixed, but definitely not a practice for the
>> > normal
>> > user.
>> >
>> > "Alsenor" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Charlie, I bought a new HP with W7 installed. Unfortunately they
>> >> don't
>> >> give
>> >> you an installation CD with it any longer, nor does a home made
>> >> "rescue
>> >> CD"
>> >> include the "factory reset" option we had in Vista.
>> >> So I am a bit hesitant to abandon my original installation!
>> >> All I dared do so far was create a few partitions via "godmode", but
>> >> even
>> >> that doesn't look exactly he way I want it.
>> >> I want to make the partitions just large enough to hold the 2
>> >> operating
>> >> systems, and use the rest of the space for "apps" and "docs"
>> >> partitions.
>> >> However, although the C partition (where W7 resides) is more than 88%
>> >> free
>> >> space, it doesn't let me shrink it to less than 300 GB. Why?
>> >> I even ran a chkdsk on it, which made no difference.
>> >> I appreciate your help!
>> >> Al.
>> >>
>> >> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <Charlie(a)mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in
>> >> message
>> >> news:uwNQpF0lKHA.5656(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> >> > Install XP first. Then Install Win7 as a New Install, (custom) not
>> >> > an
>> >> > upgrade. It will create the necessary settings to enable dual boot.
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Charlie.
>> >> > http://msmvps.com/blogs/russel
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Alsenor" <alsenor(a)ggholiday.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:%23WvLNRzlKHA.2132(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> Can anyone give me a solid guide to creating a multi-boot drive?
>> >> >> I have partitioned my HD and would like to choose between W 7 and
>> >> >> XP.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> .
>> >>
>> .
>>
From: Alsenor on 17 Jan 2010 18:38
Assuming you are talking about "Acronis Disk Director 2010" - it just told
me that it is incompatible with W7 home premium.

"Tom" <noway(a)nothere.com> wrote in message
news:ul00Oj8lKHA.1648(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> I would recommend BootIt Next Generation over Acronis, it is much cheaper,
> easier to use and it is almost fool-proof to use.
>
> http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/bootit-next-generation.htm
>
> "Kue2" <Kue2(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ub2Aih7lKHA.2188(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> U maybe need a third party disk management program
>> such as Acronis.
>> www.Acronis.com
>> http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/products/diskdirector/
>> to do what u want to do, as far as partitioning the hard-drive.
>> To add XP after Windows 7 is installed is considered a high level
>> task at the least. I would not recommend unless you are very tech savvy.
>> You will need to have a licensed copy of XP(install disk) & also a
>> licensed
>> copy of Windows 7 (install disk). If you are going to have a duel boot
>> have
>> XP-32 bit, keep in mine you will loose your restore points whenever you
>> duel boot.
>>
>> "Alsenor" <alsenor(a)ggholiday.com> wrote in message
>> news:eepOJC7lKHA.5656(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Yes, I did defrag it as well, thinking of that reason.
>>> Then I ran the chkdsk.
>>> Still wants to be 300 GB!
>>>
>>> "Carlos" <Carlos(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:C61213E5-0226-44D3-A2D1-FE3B1007D86E(a)microsoft.com...
>>>> Alsenor,
>>>> Defragment your partition C: before trying to shrink it.
>>>> There may be at least a piece of a file near the "outer" boundaries
>>>> (close
>>>> to the 300GB) that needs to be relocated by defrag, closer to the
>>>> beginning
>>>> of the partition.
>>>> Once the partition is defragged (packed more densely) there should be
>>>> more
>>>> room for defragging.
>>>> Carlos
>>>> P.S.: I don't recommend installing XP after 7 because XP destroys its
>>>> boot
>>>> loader.
>>>> It is risky, it can be fixed, but definitely not a practice for the
>>>> normal
>>>> user.
>>>>
>>>> "Alsenor" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Charlie, I bought a new HP with W7 installed. Unfortunately they
>>>>> don't give
>>>>> you an installation CD with it any longer, nor does a home made
>>>>> "rescue CD"
>>>>> include the "factory reset" option we had in Vista.
>>>>> So I am a bit hesitant to abandon my original installation!
>>>>> All I dared do so far was create a few partitions via "godmode", but
>>>>> even
>>>>> that doesn't look exactly he way I want it.
>>>>> I want to make the partitions just large enough to hold the 2
>>>>> operating
>>>>> systems, and use the rest of the space for "apps" and "docs"
>>>>> partitions.
>>>>> However, although the C partition (where W7 resides) is more than 88%
>>>>> free
>>>>> space, it doesn't let me shrink it to less than 300 GB. Why?
>>>>> I even ran a chkdsk on it, which made no difference.
>>>>> I appreciate your help!
>>>>> Al.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <Charlie(a)mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in
>>>>> message
>>>>> news:uwNQpF0lKHA.5656(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>> > Install XP first. Then Install Win7 as a New Install, (custom) not
>>>>> > an
>>>>> > upgrade. It will create the necessary settings to enable dual boot.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > --
>>>>> > Charlie.
>>>>> > http://msmvps.com/blogs/russel
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > "Alsenor" <alsenor(a)ggholiday.com> wrote in message
>>>>> > news:%23WvLNRzlKHA.2132(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> >> Can anyone give me a solid guide to creating a multi-boot drive?
>>>>> >> I have partitioned my HD and would like to choose between W 7 and
>>>>> >> XP.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >
>>>>> .
>>>>>
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