From: Jan Panteltje on
On a sunny day (Sat, 24 Apr 2010 14:05:33 -0500) it happened
"krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" <krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote in
<11g6t518iem9jlftq71j2qgso4slp59crp(a)4ax.com>:

>On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 18:57:09 GMT, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje(a)yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On a sunny day (Sat, 24 Apr 2010 13:42:04 -0500) it happened
>>"krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" <krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote in
>><tqe6t598fddfg8feih0pmp90nfelhfnmct(a)4ax.com>:
>>
>>>On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 18:09:58 GMT, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje(a)yahoo.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>On a sunny day (Sat, 24 Apr 2010 12:12:01 -0500) it happened
>>>>"krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" <krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote in
>>>><bi96t5lr4mbbvqpcadtboii5anp48l7cc6(a)4ax.com>:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 09:43:00 -0700, John Larkin
>>>>><jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 15:12:19 GMT, Jan Panteltje
>>>>>><pNaonStpealmtje(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On a sunny day (Sat, 24 Apr 2010 05:23:16 +0200) it happened Sjouke Burry
>>>>>>><burrynulnulfour(a)ppllaanneett.nnll> wrote in
>>>>>>><4bd26424$0$14132$703f8584(a)textnews.kpn.nl>:am still using WIN3.11 for workgroups, have not needed any
>>>>>>>>bugs fixed by M$.
>>>>>>>>You dont need a new or refurbished OS or computer every 2 years.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Exactly
>>>>>>>Still running a 10 year old Duron 950 Mhz as server, and Linux of course.
>>>>>>>All backuped 2 x.
>>>>>>>When all applications run, there is no reason in the world to upgrade OS.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>To be honest, nothing really new, a killer application one *must* have,
>>>>>>>has happend in the last 10 years....
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Google Earth.
>>>>>
>>>>>FPGA tools that actually work.
>>>>
>>>>You could have switched to Altera in 2000 :-)
>>>
>>>No, hardware that works is always the priority.
>>
>>OK, 1999
>
>A year (backwards) doesn't make a difference. Altera crappy I/Os weren't
>fixable. Xilinx software was easily fixed by using Synplify.

I dunno about 'crappy I/O', but Synplify is not free.
Xilinx could not even be bought, lost of vaporware, expensive too.

From: krw on
On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 19:43:15 GMT, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje(a)yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On a sunny day (Sat, 24 Apr 2010 14:05:33 -0500) it happened
>"krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" <krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote in
><11g6t518iem9jlftq71j2qgso4slp59crp(a)4ax.com>:
>
>>On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 18:57:09 GMT, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje(a)yahoo.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On a sunny day (Sat, 24 Apr 2010 13:42:04 -0500) it happened
>>>"krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" <krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote in
>>><tqe6t598fddfg8feih0pmp90nfelhfnmct(a)4ax.com>:
>>>
>>>>On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 18:09:58 GMT, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje(a)yahoo.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On a sunny day (Sat, 24 Apr 2010 12:12:01 -0500) it happened
>>>>>"krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" <krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote in
>>>>><bi96t5lr4mbbvqpcadtboii5anp48l7cc6(a)4ax.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 09:43:00 -0700, John Larkin
>>>>>><jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 15:12:19 GMT, Jan Panteltje
>>>>>>><pNaonStpealmtje(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On a sunny day (Sat, 24 Apr 2010 05:23:16 +0200) it happened Sjouke Burry
>>>>>>>><burrynulnulfour(a)ppllaanneett.nnll> wrote in
>>>>>>>><4bd26424$0$14132$703f8584(a)textnews.kpn.nl>:am still using WIN3.11 for workgroups, have not needed any
>>>>>>>>>bugs fixed by M$.
>>>>>>>>>You dont need a new or refurbished OS or computer every 2 years.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Exactly
>>>>>>>>Still running a 10 year old Duron 950 Mhz as server, and Linux of course.
>>>>>>>>All backuped 2 x.
>>>>>>>>When all applications run, there is no reason in the world to upgrade OS.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>To be honest, nothing really new, a killer application one *must* have,
>>>>>>>>has happend in the last 10 years....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Google Earth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>FPGA tools that actually work.
>>>>>
>>>>>You could have switched to Altera in 2000 :-)
>>>>
>>>>No, hardware that works is always the priority.
>>>
>>>OK, 1999
>>
>>A year (backwards) doesn't make a difference. Altera crappy I/Os weren't
>>fixable. Xilinx software was easily fixed by using Synplify.
>
>I dunno about 'crappy I/O',

I do. That's the point.

> but Synplify is not free.

Nothing is free. Want to do the job? Here's the cost.

>Xilinx could not even be bought, lost of vaporware, expensive too.

I had no problems, at least after they got the Virtex line out (they bought
the company I was going to use and killed that product). Do you want to do
the job? Here's the cost.
From: Jamie on
Nico Coesel wrote:

> John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
>
>
>>I have to confess: I used a 555 once. Just once, honest. It ran off 12
>>volts and ran a charge pump diode thingie to make -5. Forgive me.
>
>
> I've used an NE555 as a crude PWM controller on several occasions.
> Going from -48V to +140V was the most extreme.
>
I don't care what they say about 555's , I find them one of the most
versatile devices out there.

They're great for the basic timer functions of various configurations
along with being used for RS FF/latch, schmitt trigger, Power monitoring
etc... The list
goes on!

From: -jg on
On Apr 25, 5:35 am, John Larkin
<jjlar...(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 12:12:01 -0500,
> My guys are seriously pushing me to go to Lattice or Altera. The
> silicon may not be as advanced, but the tools may be better. Dumping
> NuHorizons certainly didn't help.

So this thread is called "voltage divider calcs" as a cloak then ;)

If you do not NEED the advanced silicon, why choose it ?
It's nicknamed the bleeding edge for a reason..

-jg

From: John Fields on
On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 04:28:12 -0400, Jamie
<jamie_ka1lpa_not_valid_after_ka1lpa_(a)charter.net> wrote:

>Nico Coesel wrote:
>
>> John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I have to confess: I used a 555 once. Just once, honest. It ran off 12
>>>volts and ran a charge pump diode thingie to make -5. Forgive me.
>>
>>
>> I've used an NE555 as a crude PWM controller on several occasions.
>> Going from -48V to +140V was the most extreme.
>>
>I don't care what they say about 555's , I find them one of the most
>versatile devices out there.
>
> They're great for the basic timer functions of various configurations
>along with being used for RS FF/latch, schmitt trigger, Power monitoring
>etc... The list
>goes on!

---
Indeed.

One of the more unusual applications was worked out in a thread here,
where the OP asked for a way to get more audio output from a passive
buzzer and the solution was to use two cross-coupled 555's with their
outputs in bridge mode across the transducer.

Clever. :-)

And kudos back from the OP, BTW.

JF
First  |  Prev  |  Next  |  Last
Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13
Prev: POTS line quality help
Next: Cox Communications drops Usenet