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From: Henry on 4 Jun 2010 10:26 Iarnrod wrote: > On Jun 2, 9:07 am, Henry proved >> One needs to be incredibly ignorant, gullible, and even delusional >> to believe that sort of comical idiocy. Steel framed high rises are >> over engineered to support many times their own weight as well as >> withstand hurricane force wind loads and earthquakes. That's one of >> the many reason why no steel framed high rise has ever collapsed due >> to fire. >> Twin Towers: >> The massive reserve strength designed into the steel frames of >> the towers could not possibly have been overcome by the force >> of gravity alone. The fact that it was exceeded to such an >> extreme degree that the undamaged steel frame offered no >> measurable resistance, proves conclusively that the lower >> structures were destroyed before being impacted by the upper >> structures. >> From: >> http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20060327100957690 >> "The Twin Towers and Why They Fell >> It would help to begin with an accurate description of the WTC towers >> in terms of quality of design and construction. In July of 1971, the >> American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE) presented a national award >> judging the buildings to be "the engineering project that demonstrates >> the greatest engineering skills and represents the greatest >> contribution to engineering progress and mankind."3 Others noted that >> "the World Trade Center towers would have an inherent capacity to >> resist unforeseen calamities." This capacity stemmed from the use of >> special high-strength steels. In particular, the perimeter columns >> were designed with tremendous reserve strength whereby "live loads on >> these columns can be increased more than 2,000% before failure occurs. >> More on the incredible strength of the towers can be found here: >> http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/analysis/design.html >> "There is evidence that the Twin Towers were designed with an even >> greater measure of reserve strength than typical large buildings. >> According to the calculations of engineers who worked on the Towers' >> design, all the columns on one side of a Tower could be cut, as well >> as the two corners and some of the columns on each adjacent side, and >> the building would still be strong enough to withstand a >> 100-mile-per-hour wind. 3" >> The massive steel frames of the towers were far too strong to >> collapse only under their own weight. That's been proved through >> physics, and that's why no other steel framed buildings have ever >> collapsed that way unless they were demolished. See Gordon Ross' >> research paper on momentum transfer here: >> http://www.journalof911studies.com/articles/Journal_5_PTransferRoss.pdf >> As common sense would dictate, even if all the perimeter and >> core columns near the top of the tower were somehow destroyed >> simultaneously so that the top 20 stories or so dropped onto the >> remaining undamaged frame, after some bending and compression, >> the collapse would have stopped, or the upper block would have >> fallen off to the side. Gordon Ross proves that with physics. >> The official conspiracy requires us to believe that falling >> directly =through= the massive undamaged steel frames, including >> the 47 interconnected central core columns: >> http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/arch/core.html >> provided little more resistance than air. This is proved by >> the fact that debris falling outside the towers hit the ground >> about the same time as the debris falling through the towers. >> Making the government's conspiracy theory even more implausible, >> is the fact that the steel at the top of the towers was over >> ten times lighter and thinner than the undamaged steel in the >> lower section. Look at the massive core column cross section in >> the bottom photo. >> http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/arch/core.html >> The official conspiracy theory says that crushing 47 of those >> columns, all interconnected with even more steel, =and= destroying >> all the perimeter columns, =and= "pancaking" all the floors, and >> stairways, produced about the same kinetic friction as falling >> though air. That, of course, is not physically possible. >> Observe the rotating and disintegrating block on the South >> Tower. >> http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/photos/wtc2exp4.html >> Notice that the corners are curved, as the block's internal >> destruction is already taking place. If it had not been destroyed >> through demolition, it would have continued to rotate and fall off >> the building as an intact block. Also, notice that the block is >> tilting towards the corner where it was impacted. The opposite >> corner was undamaged by impact or fire, as proved by photo >> evidence. >> http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/photos/wtc2exp1.html >> As the top section of that tower is rotating, the high strength, >> fire resistant perimeter columns on one side of the building are >> being compressed, and on the opposite side, where the building >> was not damaged by fire or impact, the weight above them is greatly >> reduced. >> Why do you think the undamaged steel perimeter frame with reduced >> weight above it is exploding and collapsing at the same rate as >> the fire and impact damaged side that has most of the weight of the >> rotating block on it? Seems more than a little odd, doesn't it? Here's >> some information on the perimeter columns. >> http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/arch/perimeter.html >> Now watch this video: >> http://plaguepuppy.net/public_html/collapse%20update/wtc-2_explodes.avi >> That's not gradual bending and buckling of an over heated steel >> frame. Those are huge explosions not unlike those we see in a >> controlled demolition. Keep in mind that this is at the onset of >> the collapse, so nothing is falling quickly at this point. >> More good information on 9-11 can be found here: >> http://stopthelie.com/1-hour_guide_to_911.html > Janitor Boy. If you stopped acting like you're insane and lying about your many betters, you'd have nothing at all to say. -- "Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." -- Albert Einstein. http://911research.wtc7.net http://www.journalof911studies.com/ http://www.ae911truth.org
From: Henry on 4 Jun 2010 10:27 Ray Fischer wrote: > Henry <9-11truth(a)experts.org> wrote: >> Please explain how WTC7 could have dropped at the rate of free fall >> while simultaneously bending, crushing, and breaking tens of thousands >> of tons of steel. > Easy. It didn't. That's typical Cave Man cartoon conspiracy kook ignorance and drivel. As always, here's hard proof, which, as an ignorant kook, you'll be unable to address or discuss. Are you saying that the videos proving WTC7's free fall drop are all faked and that NIST and 9-11 Truth experts are both wrong when they agree that WTC7 did, in fact, accelerate at the rate of free fall? Proof of free fall is documented below in several short videos. http://cms.ae911truth.org/index.php/evidence/35-key-facts/275-nist-admits-freefall.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDvNS9iMjzA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXTlaqXsm4k http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3mudruFzNw Videos from: http://www.911speakout.org/ -- "Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." -- Albert Einstein. http://911research.wtc7.net http://www.journalof911studies.com/ http://www.ae911truth.org
From: S'mee on 5 Jun 2010 00:24 On Jun 4, 6:38 pm, * Useless Shiteater * wrote: I pity people like you...you'll NEVER be sane.
From: * US on 5 Jun 2010 07:37 "full peer review" http://www.journalof911studies.com/ The neocon pawn doesn't understand even those two words. The neocon pawn isn't qualified as a "peer", obviously. He can't even find any specifics.
From: S'mee on 5 Jun 2010 07:53
On Jun 5, 5:37 am, * US * wrote: You are wrong they are wrong and I'm right. Now get over it...you idiot. |