From: spudnik on
no, no; de planes!, Boss,
were not beeg eenough bombs,
to knock Earth's tallest buildings
into a gigantic subway that served them (according
to the -a-hem- contractor who built'em .-)

now, how does *anyone* explain: a)
the cars that were melted in the street, below; and b)
the molten metal found *weeks* later?

> YOU and they are delusional.

thus:
are you still thinking of light as "photons
with a guidewave" -- like that little cartoon, you found?

thus:
OMG, some dood hates Lyn!... well,
find the article about actual sea-level data
from tidal stations, yourself, mister Nice-guy.
http://21stcenturysciencetech.com/articles/fall01/Tanawa/tanawa.html
What Is a Torquetum?
The torquetum, an analogue computer, can tell us, without long and
tedious calculation, at any time of the night when planets or the Moon
are visible, what their angular distance is from the Sun, or from the
first point of Aries, and/or from some bright star in their vicinity.
It can also tell us how much they are above or below the ecliptic.

This would give us a fairly quick way to construct an almanac, with
enough data to predict at least lunar eclipses, as well as
occultations of bright stars or planets by the Moon—the which dramatic
events ought to confirm the longitude readings obtained by using the
torquetum to measure lunar distance.
—Rick Sanders

> 148940000 km^2 Earth land area
> 510072000 km^2 Earth sea area
> 14000000 km^2 Antarctica area
> 1.6 km Ice height

thus:
I dug into your wikilink, Sue;
the upshot is that there is only practiceably "partial vacuum,"
with all kinds of waffling about "free space;"
particularly laudable is:
Scientists working in optical communications tend to use free space to
refer to a medium with an unobstructed line of sight (often air,
sometimes space). See Free-space optical communication and the What is
Free Space Optical Communications?.

The United States Patent Office defines free space in a number of
ways. For radio and radar applications the definition is "space where
the movement of energy in any direction is substantially unimpeded,
such as the atmosphere, the ocean, or the earth" (Glossary in US
Patent Class 342, Class Notes).[40]

Another US Patent Office interpretation is Subclass 310: Communication
over free space, where the definition is "a medium which is not a wire
or a waveguide".[41]

thus:
now, not only can we easily aver that "that Shakespeare
wrote that Shakespeare," but we can also wonder
about his death at fifty-three, after dining
with a manslaughterer, Ben Johnson. anyway, if
you really want to get into WS's politics,
find the cover-article *Campaigner* magazine,
"Why the British hate Shakespeare" -- if you can do so,
at http://www.wlym.com/drupal/campaigners.

thus:
the whole *problem* is the diagramming,
which is just a 2D phase-space, and cartooned
into a "2+1" phase-space with "pants," sketched
on paper. you simply do not need the pants,
the lightcones they're made with, and
the paradoxes of "looping in time" because
of a silly diagram, wherein "time becomes comensurate
with space" saith-Minkowski-then-he-died.

as for capNtrade, if Waxman's bill passes,
you won't be able to do *any* physics,
that isn't "junkyard physics."

thus:
you are assuming that "gravitons" "go faster"
than "photons," which is three things that have
never been seen. Young proved that all properties
of light is wave-ish, save for the yet-to-fbe-ound photo-
electrical effect, the instrumental artifact that save Newton's balls
o'light for British academe. well, even if
any large thing could be accelerated to so close
to teh speed of light-propagation (which used to be known
as "retarded," since being found not instantaneous) is "space"
-- which is no-where "a" vacuum --
it'd create a shockwave of any light that it was emmitting,
per Gauss's hydrodynamic shockwaves (and, after all,
this is all in the field of "magnetohydrodynamics,"
not "vacuum energy dynamics").

thus:
what ever it says, Shapiro's last book is just a polemic;
his real "proof" is _1599_;
the fans of de Vere are hopelessly stuck-up --
especially if they went to Harry Potter PS#1.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=http://entertainment.timesonline.co.....

--Light: A History!
http://wlym.com
From: S'mee on
On Apr 29, 9:35 am, Henry <9-11tr...(a)experts.org> wrote:

ROTFLMAO...not my fault you are an ignorant commie and your sources
while lettered are unintelligent and incapable of coming to the
correct conclusion.

You damn commie fruitcakes sure are stupid.
From: S'mee on
On May 4, 8:05 am, Henry <9-11tr...(a)experts.org> wrote:

Hey Karl Marx...you are SO last millenium and your corrupt and
unworkable dogma has been flushed. So get a life, maybe start running
a hotdog cart in times square, hang out with all the other retards
like yourself.
From: Henry on
Ironhead amused it many betters with the following insanity:
> Henry proved:

>> And of course, ironhead is "arguing" against both government
>> hired NIST employees and 9-11 Truth experts who all agree that
>> WTC7 did, in fact, drop at the rate of free fall. ironhead is
>> quite clearly as insane as it is dead wrong. As always, here's
>> hard proof. ironhead will be unable to address this proof with
>> anything but more of its insanity and lies. As we've all seen,
>> ironhead, like most blind faith followers of the government's
>> impossible 9-11 conspiracy theory, *never* posts any facts,
>> evidence, research, or references. There's a reason for that...<g>

>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDvNS9iMjzA

>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXTlaqXsm4k

>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3mudruFzNw

>> Videos from: http://www.911speakout.org/

> It is not even subject to dispute that the collapse of WTC7 was 16+
> seconds, Hankie. It simply isn't.

Well, not if you're deluded, insane, and you "think" that NIST along
with thousands of 9-11 Truth experts know less than one lone usenet
nut job - a lone nut job whose kook rants are consistently proved dead
wrong and can't cite even *one* shred of evidence or source that
agrees with its moronic lies and kooky conspiracy rants. Thanks for
proving my point, nut job... <chuckle>

http://cms.ae911truth.org/index.php/evidence/35-key-facts/275-nist-admits-freefall.html





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http://www.journalof911studies.com/
http://www.ae911truth.org

From: Henry on
Ironhead amused its many betters with the following moronic kook lies:
> On May 5, 7:01 am, Henry articulately proved:

>> And of course, ironhead is "arguing" against both government
>> hired NIST employees and 9-11 Truth experts who all agree that
>> WTC7 did, in fact, drop at the rate of free fall. As always,
>> here's hard, irrefutable proof.

>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDvNS9iMjzA

>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXTlaqXsm4k

>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3mudruFzNw

>> Videos from: http://www.911speakout.org/

> They do no such thing, of course, not in dispute, Hankie.

What's not in dispute, thanks to you, is that followers of
the government's physically impossible 9-11 cartoon conspiracy
theory fairy tale are so deluded, so incredibly ignorant, so
simple minded, and spew many stupid, blatant lies that they
come across as insane. That's no coincidence, btw. Thanks for
proving my point again ironhead... <chuckle>



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"Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance." --
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http://www.journalof911studies.com/
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