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From: BURT on 29 Mar 2010 21:44
On Mar 29, 6:30 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 29, 9:27 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I am pointing this out. You do not remember what you say mpc.
>
> > Mitch Raemsch
>
> This is very easy to resolve. Go back through the posts and find where
> I said 'flow' and 'entrainment' had something to do with gravity.
>
> You won't find any because there aren't any.
>
> What I said is the aether is 'entrained' by the Earth. The further
> from the surface of the Earth the aether is the less 'entrained' it
> is. If you were standing on the Earth looking up and were able to see
> the aether it would move east to west. The 'entrained' aether is
> moving west to east but at a slower rate than the Earth rotates.
>
> An atomic clock on an airplane flying eastward is flying against the
> 'flow' of aether, relative to the surface of the Earth, and will be
> under greater aether pressure than a similar clock on the Earth and
> will tick slower than the clock on the surface of the Earth.
>
> An atomic clock on an airplane flying westward is flying with the
> 'flow' of aether, relative to the surface of the Earth, and will under
> less aether pressure than a similar clock on the Earth and will tick
> faster than the clock on the surface of the Earth.
>
> Not once did I relate the above to gravity.
>
> What I have said consistently is the rate at which a GPS satellite
> ticks is based upon both its motion with respect to the aether and the
> pressure associated with the aether displaced by the Earth (gravity).
>
> The rate at which an atomic clock 'ticks' is based upon the aether
> pressure in which it exists. In terms of motion, the speed of a GPS
> satellite with respect to the aether causes it to displace more aether
> and for that aether to exert more pressure on the clock in the GPS
> satellite than the aether pressure associated with a clock at rest
> with respect to the Earth. This causes the GPS satellite clock to
> "result in a delay of about 7 ìs/day". The aether pressure associated
> with the aether displaced by the Earth exerts less pressure on the GPS
> satellite than a similar clock at rest on the Earth "causing the GPS
> clocks to appear faster by about 45 ìs/day". The aether pressure
> associated with the speed at which the GPS satellite moves with
> respect to the aether and the aether pressure associated with the
> aether displaced by the Earth causes "clocks on the GPS satellites
> [to] tick approximately 38 ìs/day faster than clocks on the ground."
> (quoted text fromhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_relativity_on_GPS).

I am sorry but I will not search for something you said.

My correction to you remains the same. You do not remember what you
have said.

Mitch Raemsch
From: mpc755 on 29 Mar 2010 21:47
On Mar 29, 9:44 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I am sorry but I will not search for something you said.
>
> My correction to you remains the same. You do not remember what you
> have said.
>
> Mitch Raemsch

Because I did not say it. You have provided no evidence to support
your claim. This conversation has taken place on this thread. If you
are going to make claims about what someone said, you should be
willing to back it up. It shows a lack of integrity if you continue to
make such a claim without backing it up when all of the evidence you
state exists is in this very thread.

What I said is the aether is 'entrained' by the Earth. The further
from the surface of the Earth the aether is the less 'entrained' it
is. If you were standing on the Earth looking up and were able to see
the aether it would move east to west. The 'entrained' aether is
moving west to east but at a slower rate than the Earth rotates.

An atomic clock on an airplane flying eastward is flying against the
'flow' of aether, relative to the surface of the Earth, and will be
under greater aether pressure than a similar clock on the Earth and
will tick slower than the clock on the surface of the Earth.

An atomic clock on an airplane flying westward is flying with the
'flow' of aether, relative to the surface of the Earth, and will under
less aether pressure than a similar clock on the Earth and will tick
faster than the clock on the surface of the Earth.

Not once did I relate the above to gravity.

What I have said consistently is the rate at which a GPS satellite
ticks is based upon both its motion with respect to the aether and the
pressure associated with the aether displaced by the Earth (gravity).

The rate at which an atomic clock 'ticks' is based upon the aether
pressure in which it exists. In terms of motion, the speed of a GPS
satellite with respect to the aether causes it to displace more aether
and for that aether to exert more pressure on the clock in the GPS
satellite than the aether pressure associated with a clock at rest
with respect to the Earth. This causes the GPS satellite clock to
"result in a delay of about 7 ìs/day". The aether pressure associated
with the aether displaced by the Earth exerts less pressure on the GPS
satellite than a similar clock at rest on the Earth "causing the GPS
clocks to appear faster by about 45 ìs/day". The aether pressure
associated with the speed at which the GPS satellite moves with
respect to the aether and the aether pressure associated with the
aether displaced by the Earth causes "clocks on the GPS satellites
[to] tick approximately 38 ìs/day faster than clocks on the ground."
(quoted text from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_relativity_on_GPS).
From: BURT on 29 Mar 2010 23:57
mpc: An atomic clock on an airplane flying eastward is flying against
the 'flow' of aether, relative to the surface of the Earth, and will
be under greater aether pressure than a similar clock on the Earth and
will tick slower than the clock on the surface of the Earth.


If you flow against or with the aether flow it would produce a
different gravity depending on which direction througth the aether you
are going. But gravity stays the same.

Do you believe in change of speed gravity?
Change of speed produces changes in time aether rate.
This is the whole gravity.

Mitch Raemsch
From: mpc755 on 30 Mar 2010 00:45
On Mar 29, 11:57 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> mpc: An atomic clock on an airplane flying eastward is flying against
> the 'flow' of aether, relative to the surface of the Earth, and will
> be under greater aether pressure than a similar clock on the Earth and
> will tick slower than the clock on the surface of the Earth.
>
> If you flow against or with the aether flow it would produce a
> different gravity depending on which direction througth the aether you
> are going. But gravity stays the same.
>

If the airplane is traveling with or against the 'flow' of aether will
determine the aether pressure in which the airplane exists. The aether
pressure associated with moving with respect to the aether is applied
equally to each and every part of each and every nuclei which is the
matter which is the airplane.

This is not gravity.

Gravity is the aether pressure associated with the aether displaced by
the Earth. The pressure associated with gravity is not applied equally
to each and every part of each and every nuclei which is the matter.

Gravity is NOT the aether pressure associated with the 'flow' of the
airplane through the aether.

This is two different mechanisms for aether pressure.

Now, you can believe whatever you want to believe but your insistence
the 'flow' of aether in which the airplanes exists is gravity is
incorrect.

You may be mistaking acceleration with momentum.

The aether pressure associated with acceleration is not applied
equally to each and every part of each and every nuclei which is the
matter.

The aether pressure associated with momentum is applied equally to
each and every part of each and every nuclei which is the matter.

The airplanes are flying with constant momentum. This means the aether
pressure associated with the airplanes momentum is not gravity.
From: BURT on 30 Mar 2010 14:47
On Mar 29, 9:45 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 29, 11:57 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > mpc: An atomic clock on an airplane flying eastward is flying against
> > the 'flow' of aether, relative to the surface of the Earth, and will
> > be under greater aether pressure than a similar clock on the Earth and
> > will tick slower than the clock on the surface of the Earth.
>
> > If you flow against or with the aether flow it would produce a
> > different gravity depending on which direction througth the aether you
> > are going. But gravity stays the same.
>
> If the airplane is traveling with or against the 'flow' of aether will
> determine the aether pressure in which the airplane exists. The aether
> pressure associated with moving with respect to the aether is applied
> equally to each and every part of each and every nuclei which is the
> matter which is the airplane.
>
> This is not gravity.

But you said aether pressure is gravity. Flowing with it or against it
will change the pressure.

Mitch Raemsch


>
> Gravity is the aether pressure associated with the aether displaced by
> the Earth. The pressure associated with gravity is not applied equally
> to each and every part of each and every nuclei which is the matter.
>
> Gravity is NOT the aether pressure associated with the 'flow' of the
> airplane through the aether.
>
> This is two different mechanisms for aether pressure.
>
> Now, you can believe whatever you want to believe but your insistence
> the 'flow' of aether in which the airplanes exists is gravity is
> incorrect.
>
> You may be mistaking acceleration with momentum.
>
> The aether pressure associated with acceleration is not applied
> equally to each and every part of each and every nuclei which is the
> matter.
>
> The aether pressure associated with momentum is applied equally to
> each and every part of each and every nuclei which is the matter.
>
> The airplanes are flying with constant momentum. This means the aether
> pressure associated with the airplanes momentum is not gravity.

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