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From: mpc755 on 30 Mar 2010 16:12
On Mar 30, 2:47 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Mar 29, 9:45 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Mar 29, 11:57 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > mpc: An atomic clock on an airplane flying eastward is flying against
> > > the 'flow' of aether, relative to the surface of the Earth, and will
> > > be under greater aether pressure than a similar clock on the Earth and
> > > will tick slower than the clock on the surface of the Earth.
>
> > > If you flow against or with the aether flow it would produce a
> > > different gravity depending on which direction througth the aether you
> > > are going. But gravity stays the same.
>
> > If the airplane is traveling with or against the 'flow' of aether will
> > determine the aether pressure in which the airplane exists. The aether
> > pressure associated with moving with respect to the aether is applied
> > equally to each and every part of each and every nuclei which is the
> > matter which is the airplane.
>
> > This is not gravity.
>
> But you said aether pressure is gravity. Flowing with it or against it
> will change the pressure.
>
> Mitch Raemsch
>

I said:

Gravity is pressure exerted by aether DISPLACED by matter.

The pressure associated with ENTRAINED aether is different than the
pressure associated with DISPLACED aether.

>
>
> > Gravity is the aether pressure associated with the aether displaced by
> > the Earth. The pressure associated with gravity is not applied equally
> > to each and every part of each and every nuclei which is the matter.
>
> > Gravity is NOT the aether pressure associated with the 'flow' of the
> > airplane through the aether.
>
> > This is two different mechanisms for aether pressure.
>
> > Now, you can believe whatever you want to believe but your insistence
> > the 'flow' of aether in which the airplanes exists is gravity is
> > incorrect.
>
> > You may be mistaking acceleration with momentum.
>
> > The aether pressure associated with acceleration is not applied
> > equally to each and every part of each and every nuclei which is the
> > matter.
>
> > The aether pressure associated with momentum is applied equally to
> > each and every part of each and every nuclei which is the matter.
>
> > The airplanes are flying with constant momentum. This means the aether
> > pressure associated with the airplanes momentum is not gravity.
>
>

From: Sue... on 30 Mar 2010 16:18
On Mar 30, 4:12 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 30, 2:47 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Mar 29, 9:45 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Mar 29, 11:57 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > mpc: An atomic clock on an airplane flying eastward is flying against
> > > > the 'flow' of aether, relative to the surface of the Earth, and will
> > > > be under greater aether pressure than a similar clock on the Earth and
> > > > will tick slower than the clock on the surface of the Earth.
>
> > > > If you flow against or with the aether flow it would produce a
> > > > different gravity depending on which direction througth the aether you
> > > > are going. But gravity stays the same.
>
> > > If the airplane is traveling with or against the 'flow' of aether will
> > > determine the aether pressure in which the airplane exists. The aether
> > > pressure associated with moving with respect to the aether is applied
> > > equally to each and every part of each and every nuclei which is the
> > > matter which is the airplane.
>
> > > This is not gravity.
>
> > But you said aether pressure is gravity. Flowing with it or against it
> > will change the pressure.
>
> > Mitch Raemsch
>
> I said:
>
> Gravity is pressure exerted by aether DISPLACED by matter.
>
> The pressure associated with ENTRAINED aether is different than the
> pressure associated with DISPLACED aether.

You also said, working from your theory,

~that all earth orbits are identical~.

So you have a problem with your theory.

Sue...


>
>
>
> > > Gravity is the aether pressure associated with the aether displaced by
> > > the Earth. The pressure associated with gravity is not applied equally
> > > to each and every part of each and every nuclei which is the matter.
>
> > > Gravity is NOT the aether pressure associated with the 'flow' of the
> > > airplane through the aether.
>
> > > This is two different mechanisms for aether pressure.
>
> > > Now, you can believe whatever you want to believe but your insistence
> > > the 'flow' of aether in which the airplanes exists is gravity is
> > > incorrect.
>
> > > You may be mistaking acceleration with momentum.
>
> > > The aether pressure associated with acceleration is not applied
> > > equally to each and every part of each and every nuclei which is the
> > > matter.
>
> > > The aether pressure associated with momentum is applied equally to
> > > each and every part of each and every nuclei which is the matter.
>
> > > The airplanes are flying with constant momentum. This means the aether
> > > pressure associated with the airplanes momentum is not gravity.
>
>

From: mpc755 on 30 Mar 2010 16:22
On Mar 30, 4:18 pm, "Sue..." <suzysewns...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> On Mar 30, 4:12 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Mar 30, 2:47 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Mar 29, 9:45 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Mar 29, 11:57 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > mpc: An atomic clock on an airplane flying eastward is flying against
> > > > > the 'flow' of aether, relative to the surface of the Earth, and will
> > > > > be under greater aether pressure than a similar clock on the Earth and
> > > > > will tick slower than the clock on the surface of the Earth.
>
> > > > > If you flow against or with the aether flow it would produce a
> > > > > different gravity depending on which direction througth the aether you
> > > > > are going. But gravity stays the same.
>
> > > > If the airplane is traveling with or against the 'flow' of aether will
> > > > determine the aether pressure in which the airplane exists. The aether
> > > > pressure associated with moving with respect to the aether is applied
> > > > equally to each and every part of each and every nuclei which is the
> > > > matter which is the airplane.
>
> > > > This is not gravity.
>
> > > But you said aether pressure is gravity. Flowing with it or against it
> > > will change the pressure.
>
> > > Mitch Raemsch
>
> > I said:
>
> > Gravity is pressure exerted by aether DISPLACED by matter.
>
> > The pressure associated with ENTRAINED aether is different than the
> > pressure associated with DISPLACED aether.
>
> You also said, working from your theory,
>
> ~that all earth orbits are identical~.
>
> So you have a problem with your theory.
>
> Sue...
>

I have no idea what you are talking about. This is what I said:

Moving in the direction of the Earth's rotation, eastward, causes a
greater Aether pressure than moving in the direction against the
Earth's rotation, westward.

The state of the aether is determined by its connections with the
matter which is the Earth. This means the aether is less connected to
the Earth where the airplanes fly in the 'Hafele and Keating
Experiment' than it is to the surface of the Earth. If you could 'see'
the aether it would appear as if the aether were 'flowing' east to
west compared to the surface of the Earth. The aether is still
'flowing' west to east but not the same rate as the surface of the
Earth.

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/HBASE/Relativ/airtim.html

"Relative to the atomic time scale of the U.S. Naval Observatory, the
flying clocks lost 59+/-10 nanoseconds during the eastward trip and
gained 273+/-7 nanosecond during the westward trip, where the errors
are the corresponding standard deviations."

Flying with the Earth's rotation, eastward, is flying against the
'flow' of aether, relative to the surface of the Earth, causing a
greater Aether pressure on the atomic clock causing the atomic clock
to tick slower relative to a similar clock on the surface of the
Earth. Flying against the Earth's rotation, westward, is flying with
the 'flow' of aether, relative to the surface of the Earth, causing a
lower aether pressure on the atomic clock causing the atomic clock to
tick faster relative to a similar clock on the surface of the Earth.
From: BURT on 30 Mar 2010 16:23
On Mar 30, 1:12 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 30, 2:47 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 29, 9:45 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Mar 29, 11:57 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > mpc: An atomic clock on an airplane flying eastward is flying against
> > > > the 'flow' of aether, relative to the surface of the Earth, and will
> > > > be under greater aether pressure than a similar clock on the Earth and
> > > > will tick slower than the clock on the surface of the Earth.
>
> > > > If you flow against or with the aether flow it would produce a
> > > > different gravity depending on which direction througth the aether you
> > > > are going. But gravity stays the same.
>
> > > If the airplane is traveling with or against the 'flow' of aether will
> > > determine the aether pressure in which the airplane exists. The aether
> > > pressure associated with moving with respect to the aether is applied
> > > equally to each and every part of each and every nuclei which is the
> > > matter which is the airplane.
>
> > > This is not gravity.
>
> > But you said aether pressure is gravity. Flowing with it or against it
> > will change the pressure.
>
> > Mitch Raemsch
>
> I said:
>
> Gravity is pressure exerted by aether DISPLACED by matter.
>
> The pressure associated with ENTRAINED aether is different than the
> pressure associated with DISPLACED aether.
>
>
>
>
>
> > > Gravity is the aether pressure associated with the aether displaced by
> > > the Earth. The pressure associated with gravity is not applied equally
> > > to each and every part of each and every nuclei which is the matter.
>
> > > Gravity is NOT the aether pressure associated with the 'flow' of the
> > > airplane through the aether.
>
> > > This is two different mechanisms for aether pressure.
>
> > > Now, you can believe whatever you want to believe but your insistence
> > > the 'flow' of aether in which the airplanes exists is gravity is
> > > incorrect.
>
> > > You may be mistaking acceleration with momentum.
>
> > > The aether pressure associated with acceleration is not applied
> > > equally to each and every part of each and every nuclei which is the
> > > matter.
>
> > > The aether pressure associated with momentum is applied equally to
> > > each and every part of each and every nuclei which is the matter.
>
> > > The airplanes are flying with constant momentum. This means the aether
> > > pressure associated with the airplanes momentum is not gravity.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Where am I wrong about what you said?

Mitch Raemsch
From: mpc755 on 30 Mar 2010 16:30
On Mar 30, 4:23 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Mar 30, 1:12 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Mar 30, 2:47 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Mar 29, 9:45 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Mar 29, 11:57 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > mpc: An atomic clock on an airplane flying eastward is flying against
> > > > > the 'flow' of aether, relative to the surface of the Earth, and will
> > > > > be under greater aether pressure than a similar clock on the Earth and
> > > > > will tick slower than the clock on the surface of the Earth.
>
> > > > > If you flow against or with the aether flow it would produce a
> > > > > different gravity depending on which direction througth the aether you
> > > > > are going. But gravity stays the same.
>
> > > > If the airplane is traveling with or against the 'flow' of aether will
> > > > determine the aether pressure in which the airplane exists. The aether
> > > > pressure associated with moving with respect to the aether is applied
> > > > equally to each and every part of each and every nuclei which is the
> > > > matter which is the airplane.
>
> > > > This is not gravity.
>
> > > But you said aether pressure is gravity. Flowing with it or against it
> > > will change the pressure.
>
> > > Mitch Raemsch
>
> > I said:
>
> > Gravity is pressure exerted by aether DISPLACED by matter.
>
> > The pressure associated with ENTRAINED aether is different than the
> > pressure associated with DISPLACED aether.
>
> > > > Gravity is the aether pressure associated with the aether displaced by
>
> Where am I wrong about what you said?
>
> Mitch Raemsch

The pressure applied based on momentum is equally applied to each and
every part of each and every nucleus which is the matter.

The pressure associated with gravity and acceleration is not equally
applied to each and every part of each and every nucleus which is the
matter.

The fast the airplane travel with respect to the aether the greater
the aether pressure equally applied to each and every nucleus which is
the matter which is the airplane.

The speed of the airplane with respect to the aether does NOT change
the downward pressure associated with the aether DISPLACED by the
Earth.
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