Are Electric Fields Distrorted By Gravity? [Relativity]

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From: mpc755 on 6 Aug 2010 10:23

On Aug 6, 9:57 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 6, 8:21 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Aug 6, 8:47 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Aug 5, 6:21 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Aug 5, 6:32 pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:
>
> > > > > On Thu, 5 Aug 2010 04:25:14 -0700 (PDT), mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >On Aug 5, 4:36 am, "n...(a)bid.nes" <alien8...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >> On Aug 4, 3:28 pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:
>
> > > > > >> > SPACE CARRYING A FIELD IS NOT THE SAME AS SPACE DEVOID OF FIELDS.
>
> > > > > >> There is no place in the Universe "devoid of fields".
>
> > > > > >> Mark L. Fergerson
>
> > > > > >There is no place in the Universe devoid of mass. There is no place in
> > > > > >the Universe devoid of matter and dark matter.
>
> > > > > there is place on this NG devoid of morons
>
> > > > > Henry Wilson...
>
> > > > > .......Einstein's Relativity...The religion that worships negative space.
>
> > > > Does the ripple eventually reach the Earth? If not then why not?
>
> > > > 'Hubble Finds Ghostly Ring of Dark Matter'http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/news/dark_matter_ring_featur...
>
> > > > "Astronomers using NASAs Hubble Space Telescope got a first-hand view
> > > > of how dark matter behaves during a titanic collision between two
> > > > galaxy clusters. The wreck created a ripple of dark matter, which is
> > > > somewhat similar to a ripple formed in a pond when a rock hits the
> > > > water."
>
> > > > The ripple will eventually reach the Earth and this is evidence dark
> > > > matter exists from the galaxy cluster to the Earth. This is evidence
> > > > dark matter is the medium of space in which light waves propagate.
>
> > > Henri, Mike Cavedon is tired of replying to himself, and so he's
> > > baiting anybody who will bite. His only regular conversation partner
> > > is a homeless guy who thinks he won two Nobel Prizes last year.
>
> > You have never answered if the ripple reaches the Earth and if not
> > then why not?
>
> And I've told you the reason why I don't answer your questions. Do you
> remember the reason? Does it make sense to you?

Does the ripple eventually reach the Earth and if not then why not?

Why won't you answer such a simple question?

'Hubble Finds Ghostly Ring of Dark Matter'
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/news/dark_matter_ring_feature.html

"Astronomers using NASAs Hubble Space Telescope got a first-hand view
of how dark matter behaves during a titanic collision between two
galaxy clusters. The wreck created a ripple of dark matter, which is
somewhat similar to a ripple formed in a pond when a rock hits the
water."

The ripple will eventually reach the Earth and this is evidence dark
matter exists from the galaxy cluster to the Earth. This is evidence
dark matter is the medium of space in which light waves propagate.

A moving particle has an associated dark matter displacement wave. In
a double slit experiment, the particle travels a single path and
enters and exits a single slit. The associated dark matter
displacement wave enters and exits multiple slits. The dark matter
displacement wave creates interference upon exiting the slits which
alters the direction the particle travels. Detecting the particle
causes decoherence of the associated dark matter displacement wave
(i.e. turns the wave into chop) and there is no interference.

Dark matter and matter are different states of the same material.
Dark matter is displaced by matter.
Dark matter is not at rest when displaced.
Dark matter displaced by matter exerts pressure towards the matter.
Pressure exerted by displaced dark matter towards matter is gravity.

Maxwell's displacement current is dark matter displacement.

'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT?'
A. EINSTEIN
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf

"If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass
diminishes by L/c2."

Dark matter and matter are different states of the same material. The
mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer exists
as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as dark matter.
As matter converts to dark matter it expands in three dimensional
space. The physical effects this transition has on the neighboring
dark matter and matter is energy.

Mass is conserved.

From: PD on 6 Aug 2010 10:41

On Aug 6, 9:23 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 6, 9:57 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Aug 6, 8:21 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Aug 6, 8:47 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Aug 5, 6:21 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Aug 5, 6:32 pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Thu, 5 Aug 2010 04:25:14 -0700 (PDT), mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >On Aug 5, 4:36 am, "n...(a)bid.nes" <alien8...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >> On Aug 4, 3:28 pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:
>
> > > > > > >> > SPACE CARRYING A FIELD IS NOT THE SAME AS SPACE DEVOID OF FIELDS.
>
> > > > > > >> There is no place in the Universe "devoid of fields".
>
> > > > > > >> Mark L. Fergerson
>
> > > > > > >There is no place in the Universe devoid of mass. There is no place in
> > > > > > >the Universe devoid of matter and dark matter.
>
> > > > > > there is place on this NG devoid of morons
>
> > > > > > Henry Wilson...
>
> > > > > > .......Einstein's Relativity...The religion that worships negative space.
>
> > > > > Does the ripple eventually reach the Earth? If not then why not?
>
> > > > > 'Hubble Finds Ghostly Ring of Dark Matter'http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/news/dark_matter_ring_featur...
>
> > > > > "Astronomers using NASAs Hubble Space Telescope got a first-hand view
> > > > > of how dark matter behaves during a titanic collision between two
> > > > > galaxy clusters. The wreck created a ripple of dark matter, which is
> > > > > somewhat similar to a ripple formed in a pond when a rock hits the
> > > > > water."
>
> > > > > The ripple will eventually reach the Earth and this is evidence dark
> > > > > matter exists from the galaxy cluster to the Earth. This is evidence
> > > > > dark matter is the medium of space in which light waves propagate..
>
> > > > Henri, Mike Cavedon is tired of replying to himself, and so he's
> > > > baiting anybody who will bite. His only regular conversation partner
> > > > is a homeless guy who thinks he won two Nobel Prizes last year.
>
> > > You have never answered if the ripple reaches the Earth and if not
> > > then why not?
>
> > And I've told you the reason why I don't answer your questions. Do you
> > remember the reason? Does it make sense to you?
>
> Does the ripple eventually reach the Earth and if not then why not?
>
> Why won't you answer such a simple question?
>

I've already told you why I don't give YOU an answer to this simple
question. Why can you not remember or absorb that simple reason?

From: mpc755 on 6 Aug 2010 10:49

On Aug 6, 10:41 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 6, 9:23 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Aug 6, 9:57 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Aug 6, 8:21 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Aug 6, 8:47 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Aug 5, 6:21 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Aug 5, 6:32 pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On Thu, 5 Aug 2010 04:25:14 -0700 (PDT), mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail..com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >On Aug 5, 4:36 am, "n...(a)bid.nes" <alien8...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> On Aug 4, 3:28 pm, ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:
>
> > > > > > > >> > SPACE CARRYING A FIELD IS NOT THE SAME AS SPACE DEVOID OF FIELDS.
>
> > > > > > > >> There is no place in the Universe "devoid of fields".
>
> > > > > > > >> Mark L. Fergerson
>
> > > > > > > >There is no place in the Universe devoid of mass. There is no place in
> > > > > > > >the Universe devoid of matter and dark matter.
>
> > > > > > > there is place on this NG devoid of morons
>
> > > > > > > Henry Wilson...
>
> > > > > > > .......Einstein's Relativity...The religion that worships negative space.
>
> > > > > > Does the ripple eventually reach the Earth? If not then why not?
>
> > > > > > 'Hubble Finds Ghostly Ring of Dark Matter'http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/news/dark_matter_ring_featur...
>
> > > > > > "Astronomers using NASAs Hubble Space Telescope got a first-hand view
> > > > > > of how dark matter behaves during a titanic collision between two
> > > > > > galaxy clusters. The wreck created a ripple of dark matter, which is
> > > > > > somewhat similar to a ripple formed in a pond when a rock hits the
> > > > > > water."
>
> > > > > > The ripple will eventually reach the Earth and this is evidence dark
> > > > > > matter exists from the galaxy cluster to the Earth. This is evidence
> > > > > > dark matter is the medium of space in which light waves propagate.
>
> > > > > Henri, Mike Cavedon is tired of replying to himself, and so he's
> > > > > baiting anybody who will bite. His only regular conversation partner
> > > > > is a homeless guy who thinks he won two Nobel Prizes last year.
>
> > > > You have never answered if the ripple reaches the Earth and if not
> > > > then why not?
>
> > > And I've told you the reason why I don't answer your questions. Do you
> > > remember the reason? Does it make sense to you?
>
> > Does the ripple eventually reach the Earth and if not then why not?
>
> > Why won't you answer such a simple question?
>
> I've already told you why I don't give YOU an answer to this simple
> question. Why can you not remember or absorb that simple reason?

Does the ripple eventually reach the Earth and if not then why not?

Why won't you answer such a simple question?

'Hubble Finds Ghostly Ring of Dark Matter'
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/news/dark_matter_ring_feature.html

"Astronomers using NASAs Hubble Space Telescope got a first-hand view
of how dark matter behaves during a titanic collision between two
galaxy clusters. The wreck created a ripple of dark matter, which is
somewhat similar to a ripple formed in a pond when a rock hits the
water."

The ripple will eventually reach the Earth and this is evidence dark
matter exists from the galaxy cluster to the Earth. This is evidence
dark matter is the medium of space in which light waves propagate.

A moving particle has an associated dark matter displacement wave. In
a double slit experiment, the particle travels a single path and
enters and exits a single slit. The associated dark matter
displacement wave enters and exits multiple slits. The dark matter
displacement wave creates interference upon exiting the slits which
alters the direction the particle travels. Detecting the particle
causes decoherence of the associated dark matter displacement wave
(i.e. turns the wave into chop) and there is no interference.

Dark matter and matter are different states of the same material.
Dark matter is displaced by matter.
Dark matter is not at rest when displaced.
Dark matter displaced by matter exerts pressure towards the matter.
Pressure exerted by displaced dark matter towards matter is gravity.

Maxwell's displacement current is dark matter displacement.

'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT?'
A. EINSTEIN
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf

"If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass
diminishes by L/c2."

Dark matter and matter are different states of the same material. The
mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer exists
as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as dark matter.
As matter converts to dark matter it expands in three dimensional
space. The physical effects this transition has on the neighboring
dark matter and matter is energy.

Mass is conserved.

From: glird on 6 Aug 2010 11:24

On Aug 4, 11:19 pm, mpc755 wrote:
>
>< 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT?'
A. EINSTEIN ... "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of
radiation, its mass
diminishes by L/c2."
Its WEIGHT in grams decreases but its mass in densa remains
constant even though some of it no longer is particulate.

> Dark matter and [particulate] matter are
> different states of the same material.

Yes.

>< The mass of the body does [not] diminish, but the matter which no longer exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as dark matter. >

YES!!

> As [particles of] matter converts to dark
>matter it expands in three dimensional space.

Yes.

>< The physical effects this transition has on the neighboring matter is [known as] energy.

> Mass is conserved.

Yes; in densa, though not in grams.

glird

From: bert on 6 Aug 2010 11:47

On Aug 6, 4:01 am, eric gisse <jowr.pi.nos...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> ..@..(Henry Wilson DSc) wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>
>
> >>> >3. There have been multiple attempts to explain gravity in terms of
> >>> >electromagnetic fields. See, for example, Kaluza-Klein. Do catch up.
>
> >>> The problem is to test any theory since the gravity force is so much
> >>> weaker than the other two.
>
> >>As I said, you need to see the attempts put forward already. Do catch
> >>up.
>
> > If they have all failed, what's the point in reading about them?
>
> Its' called "learning from the mistakes of others".
>
>
>
> > Henry Wilson...
>
> > .......Einstein's Relativity...The religion that worships negative space.
>
> But given you actually believe your sig, I don't see how it is all that
> relevant to you.

Yes they do As shown to us by Earth's electrical field TreBert