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From: John Larkin on 30 Mar 2010 18:28 On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 11:35:02 -0700, D from BC <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote: >In article <a524r51rn73jjudigj69jkd5et7tqorrjo(a)4ax.com>, >jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com says... >> >> On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 21:41:56 -0700, Mr.Eko >> <ekointhedirt(a)lostisland.org> wrote: >> >> >On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 20:02:57 -0700, D from BC <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> >> >wrote: >> > >> >>If I got this right... >> >>The reason why you believe in God is because it works for those that >> >>believe in God. >> >>uhh.. That's too ambiguous for me.. >> >>I'm understanding that as: The reason why you believe in God is because >> >>others believe in God. >> >>Correct? >> > >> > >> > It appears that you have never had a beautiful, wonderful, early >> >morning, early spring walk through a flowering Western US desert or >> >Eastern US woodland. >> > >> > That would be a mere two of the reasons why an observer of such wonders >> >becomes certain that it is the result of creation. >> >> It's not certainty to me, but it's sure suspicious that Earth is such >> an improbably beautiful place, and that we are alive now. The >> probability of those things happening is so close to zero that it >> doesn't matter. >> >> Consider living near the triple point of water: clouds, rivers, snow, >> all at the same time. >> >> Consider the neatly separated minerals for the taking, and the >> fuel/oxidizer in abundance. Consider the clear atmosphere, dense >> enough for flight but clear enough that we can see the stars. >> >> I bet D from BC is unimpressed. >> >> John > >I'm more impressed about everything because I make no claims as to what >started the universe. I have a mystery... you don't. > >You claim the supernatural and the supernatural has a bad track record. What a doofus you are. Read my posts. I have claimed none of the things you ascribe to me. What I am guilty of is respecting other peoples' beliefs. You're an idiot and a mean-spirited churl. John
From: David Eather on 30 Mar 2010 18:35 On 31/03/2010 8:10 AM, D from BC wrote: > My expectation was.. > >>> Somebody is going to post hyperintelligent reasons as to why super duper >>> intelligent mensa prometheus people believe in Noah, Jonah, Jesus and >>> God. >>> >>> I'm waiting to be blown away :P >>> >>> Hopefully it's less than 30 words without bible quotes. > > The response I get is: > > Quote from poster David Eather > > 'This is true. I am not telling you anything to get your sympathy. There > is nothing "heroic" or enviable here. This is what was, but it is not > what is. > > I came from a broken and dysfunctional family. As the "identified > patient" in such a family every thing that went wrong within (and > without) the family was my fault. No matter how I was treated I deserved > it because I was wrong. I never did anything good. Growing up like this > meant years of taking on guilt and failure regardless of the source or > who was culpable. While still studying at university my mother died > from multiple organ failure a result of a closed bile duct and medical > over-servicing. If only I had been a better son... It was my fault so I > didn't deserve any consideration. My own brother, his wife and uncle > worked together to force the estate trustees to make me homeless. > > For weeks I was full of grief, unbearable, relentless and guilt I > couldn't dismiss. No (recognised) skills, no support, and soon to be no > home. One night at about 2 o'clock, after no sleep I sat up. I was > getting out of bed to check out some locations. I had the rope and was > looking for a place to hang myself. Instead, and even now I don't know > why, I said "God save me". I was pushed back down to the bed by > something soft but strong. I couldn't have fought it any more than I > could have pushed against a train and prevailed. I had a vision. I was > not asleep but awake, I was not dreaming and it wasn't a lucid dream, > but I was no longer in my bedroom. I saw, heard and understood things I > had never imagined - that I could have never imagined. I was free. I was > back in the bedroom. I understood. I said "I believe" and then I heard > someone say "that is enough" and I went immediately to sleep. I woke at > 5 o'clock. The grief and the guilt were gone. I wasn't "jumping for > joy" > but the crushing baggage of pain was no longer there. And I was > physically well - not the slightest ache or pain, stiffness from the > night or even any tiredness. I could cope with what was coming. And I > knew that God was real, that Jesus was real and he had come to bind up > the broken hearted and to set captives free. It is by his sacrifice that > I was healed. > > David Eather' > > > And the reason why to believe in God, Jesus, Noah and Jonah is......DRUM > ROLL........ from your experience! > > Yes ..this might come off as cold but I do suspect you are using an > appeal to emotion argument. You are implying that without Jesus, you'll > be dead. I'm down..now I'm up and it's cause of Jesus! > > Why would I believe you? > How come Jesus is not saving thousands of other people the same way? > If possible please post suicide statistics. > > Don't see Jesus.. See a qualified psychotherapist. > > > Like you I worship at the alter of what I can see, touch, measure and test. If you want to shift to apologetics I am well able to accommodate you.
From: krw on 30 Mar 2010 18:45 On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 07:19:25 -0700, John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 22:43:38 -0700, D from BC ><myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote: > >>So the reason why you have faith in God is because you use faith for >>other things? > >I'm not a believer; I wish I were, but I don't feel it. I have great >respect, and some envy, for most people who do. Ditto. >>Example. You have faith you're not going to die tomorrow or the roof is >>not going to cave in. Since you have faith in those things then it gives >>you the go ahead to have faith in God. >>In this case you should have faith in gremlins, lochness monsters, >>vampires and leprechauns too because those things are as improbable as >>you dieing tomorrow or your roof caving in. >> >>And the other reason why you have faith in God is because it feels >>right. >>I suppose that's like the gambler that feels every bet feels like the >>right bet yet keeps losing. >>I do wonder if the hijackers that flew into the world trade center had a >>good feeling. >>Did they feel good about what they were doing. Nevermind that it makes >>sense or not..it just feels good. >> >>So the reason why you believe in God is because it feels good and many >>other things require faith. >> >>I'll illustrate using emotion as a reason. >>The reason why my circuit is the best is because I feel good. >>Convinced that I have the best circuit? >> >>I'll illustrate using the concept that many things require faith which >>justifies the use of faith. >>The reason why my circuit is the best is because I have faith. >>Convinced I have the best circuit? > >You are an offensive idiot, and your circuits suck. So your life >model, whatever it is, isn't working very well. Slowmanesque, in fact.
From: krw on 30 Mar 2010 18:46 On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 21:44:02 -0700, Mr.Eko <ekointhedirt(a)lostisland.org> wrote: >On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 20:20:14 -0700, John Larkin ><jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: > >>On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 18:49:14 -0700, D from BC >><myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote: >> > >>>Sure.. >>>Do Larkin's intelligent scientists and intelligent engineers and >>>intelligent mathematicians have an intelligent reason for why they >>>believe the story of Jonah (that biblical guy that lived for days in a >>>fish) or Noah or God or Jesus? >> >>Some do; some just have faith. >> >>There are lots of things that are faith-based, even if you don't >>believe in God. Thinks like empathy, honesty, senses of fairness, >>love, a desire to help others. Maybe you're a sociopath and don't feel >>any of these things. Or maybe you're just an idiot. >> >>John > > > Damn, john actually said something funny. Only a dim bulb would think that funny, DimBulb.
From: D from BC on 30 Mar 2010 18:53
In article <ncu4r550btdhkjio7i8i08l84q4i9foshr(a)4ax.com>, jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com says... > > On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 11:04:30 -0700, D from BC > <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> wrote: > > >In article <rm63r55t9mn4c33emhbu2j67i0nlr0o1db(a)4ax.com>, > >OneBigLever(a)InfiniteSeries.Org says... > >> > >> On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 22:43:38 -0700, D from BC <myrealaddress(a)comic.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > > >> >So the reason why you have faith in God is because you use faith for > >> >other things? > >> > >> > >> Use faith? > >> > >> Yer an idiot. > >> > >> The faith is that there is a creator. All the "religions" of Earth > >> follow that rule. Some have more than one "god" or "creator". > >> > >> We have only ONE. > > > >Larkin claims that we commonly operate on faith. > >For example... > >He has faith his food doesn't contain E. Coli. That's because he has no > >evidence that his food is good or bad. But he eats his food on faith > >that it's safe. > >No evidence = faith > >Since faith is believing without evidence and many actions are done > >without evidence then faith is justified which makes God justified. > >If I got that right, that's his reasoning for why God exists. > > > >Sound messed up? > > I never claimed that God exists. I did claim that you're a > mean-spirited idiot, for which there is concrete evidence. > > John If you have faith in God? How do you stop yourself from having faith in every improbable thing? I think you should get digging.. There could be a buried UFO in your backyard. -- D from BC British Columbia |