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From: Bernhard Schornak on 27 Dec 2009 06:12 George Hammond wrote: > [Hammond] > Na, position is completely untenable. the most well > known fact about intelligence is it increases linearly with > age children. that is why you have to divide intelligence > by age to get IQ. If Galileo hadn't had doubts about the 'untenable' official 'truths', we still believed in a Universe revolving around Earth. Doubt is the driving force behind any scientific evolution. > The second well-known fact is that the PFF also increases > linearly with age and children. at the same time it is > absolutely known that the flicker fusion frequency FFF > remains absolutely constant for everyone. Obviously, humans not only have to train their mo- toric subsystem. We also have to train how to eva- luate input from our optical subsystem. As I told, all optical impressions are filtered at low level, feeding just the important things to the conscious part of our brain. If FFF does not change, it pro- bably is a unique physical limit for each human. I don't see how a physical limit of our optical sub- system can limit other brain functions, especially overall processing capability or creating synaptic nodes and interconnection between them. The inter- connection between synaptic nodes *does* influence the IQ. The more there are, the higher the IQ. If I remember right, you posted an article, saying a human brain is able to reorganise synaptic nodes on demand. You should investigate this further, it seems to be an interesting aspect of how our brain really works. You did not answer how blind people match your FFF scheme. Some blind people have extraordinary IQs - even if they were born blind. Probably there is no connection between the optical and data processing subsystems, at all. > They didn't have to use rocket science to determine that > the reason for this is that the PFF involves cognitive > comprehension of the pictures being displayed and being able > to decide whether the current picture is different from the > last one. that requires one bit of information processing, > and since the information processing speed of an adult is > known to be 16 bits per second we have immediately the > scientific explanation of why the PFF for adults is 16 > frames per second ( for normal IQ = 100). > Na you're all wet claiming that the PFF is not a measure > of IQ. the experts know better. What is your definition for 'one bit'? In general, one bit is the smallest possible piece of informa- tion. In Computer Sciences, this is the state of a flipflop which either is on or off. Our brain uses analog signals with an unlimited range of possible states. The term 'bit' can't be applied to signals with more than two states (with 'state' defined as lower and upper voltage thresholds). Is '16 bit per second' a parallel (simultaneos) or a serial (one after the other) data transfer? >> No money, no website. When I find some spare time, I will >> reply to the one or other posting. >> > [Hammond] > Yeah the economy sucks over here too, unemployment has > reached 10% nationwide. the usual suspects are responsible > for of course but hopefully the Democrats under Obama are > going to be able to clean up the situation. Like "Yes, we can't"? ;) >> Merry 'winter solstice' and a happy new year! >> >> Bernhard Schornak >> > [Hammond] > Merry Christmas to you Bernie, and may the Sun god shine > on your endeavors. Back to you multiple times. Actually, I believe in 'chaos theory'. Everything happens by chance. Only a few basic rules determine how objects must/might act with other objects. The Universe works well on its own. It silently ignores whatever we postulate as 'untenable' physical laws. Greetings from Augsburg Bernhard Schornak
From: Geopelia on 27 Dec 2009 07:20 "<SNIP HECKLER>" <.@..com> wrote in message news:beaej5puc4pnv6u6to5h3ju31mibr239ep(a)4ax.com... > On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 01:07:13 -0800 (PST), Don Stockbauer > <don.stockbauer(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>On Dec 27, 2:48 am, George Hammond <Nowhe...(a)notspam.com> wrote: >>> On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 14:34:50 +1300, "Geopelia" >>> >>> >>> >>> <phildo...(a)xtra.co.nz> wrote: >>> >>> >"George Hammond" <Nowhe...(a)notspam.com> wrote in message >>> >news:4qucj59sj8t5qe58do5ekkqcn27fck20og(a)4ax.com... >>> >> On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 01:15:29 +1300, "Geopelia" >>> >> <phildo...(a)xtra.co.nz> wrote: >>> >>> >> How do not-ghosts chill a patch inside a room by 10 �F >>> >>>> quickly or flick a compass/magn�tometer after someone asks? Go back >>> >>>> and read my other posts, arsehole. >>> >>> >>>> -Aut >>> >>> >>>G: Aut isn't me! Anyway, I don't believe in ghosts. >>> >>>Geopelia >>> >>> >> [Hammond] >>> >> Dear Geopelia, >>> >> Mark L. Ferguson says someone else is posting under your >>> >> name; apparently "Autym D.C.": >>> >>> >(Geopelia) >>> >If somebody wants to be me, good luck to her. Would she like to swap >>> >bodies >>> >too? >>> >Sometimes I get a bit tired of being 80, especially when I have to do >>> >all >>> >the heavy work around the place. >>> >>> [Hammond] >>> Like I say it gets confusing when 3 or more people are >>> quoted in a single post unless people are using initials. >>> "Aut" is posting from google-groups while you are not, so >>> simply checking the headers will spot a forger immediately. >>"Gee, I wish WE had one of them Doomsday Devices!!! >> >> > [Hammond] > The U.S.A. does, and don't ever forget it. (Geopelia) I only use Google groups when my newsgroup server is down. I'm posting to rec.org.mensa; I suppose I ought to check all the cross posted groups too. Not the physics and relativity ones, as I don't know enough about those subjects.
From: George Hammond on 27 Dec 2009 13:07 On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 01:20:32 +1300, "Geopelia" <phildoran(a)xtra.co.nz> wrote: > >"<SNIP HECKLER>" <.@..com> wrote in message >news:beaej5puc4pnv6u6to5h3ju31mibr239ep(a)4ax.com... >> On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 01:07:13 -0800 (PST), Don Stockbauer >> <don.stockbauer(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>On Dec 27, 2:48 am, George Hammond <Nowhe...(a)notspam.com> wrote: >>>> On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 14:34:50 +1300, "Geopelia" >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> <phildo...(a)xtra.co.nz> wrote: >>>> >>>> >"George Hammond" <Nowhe...(a)notspam.com> wrote in message >>>> >news:4qucj59sj8t5qe58do5ekkqcn27fck20og(a)4ax.com... >>>> >> On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 01:15:29 +1300, "Geopelia" >>>> >> <phildo...(a)xtra.co.nz> wrote: >>>> >>>> >> How do not-ghosts chill a patch inside a room by 10 �F >>>> >>>> quickly or flick a compass/magn�tometer after someone asks? Go back >>>> >>>> and read my other posts, arsehole. >>>> >>>> >>>> -Aut >>>> >>>> >>>G: Aut isn't me! Anyway, I don't believe in ghosts. >>>> >>>Geopelia >>>> >>>> >> [Hammond] >>>> >> Dear Geopelia, >>>> >> Mark L. Ferguson says someone else is posting under your >>>> >> name; apparently "Autym D.C.": >>>> >>>> >(Geopelia) >>>> >If somebody wants to be me, good luck to her. Would she like to swap >>>> >bodies >>>> >too? >>>> >Sometimes I get a bit tired of being 80, especially when I have to do >>>> >all >>>> >the heavy work around the place. >>>> >>>> [Hammond] >>>> Like I say it gets confusing when 3 or more people are >>>> quoted in a single post unless people are using initials. >>>> "Aut" is posting from google-groups while you are not, so >>>> simply checking the headers will spot a forger immediately. >>>"Gee, I wish WE had one of them Doomsday Devices!!! >>> >>> >> [Hammond] >> The U.S.A. does, and don't ever forget it. > >(Geopelia) >I only use Google groups when my newsgroup server is down. >I'm posting to rec.org.mensa; I suppose I ought to check all the cross >posted groups too. >Not the physics and relativity ones, as I don't know enough about those >subjects. > [Hammond] I'm a graduate physicist so I'm posting from sci.physicis.relativity. I crosspost but put the "followup header" to sci.physicis.relativity so you have to read the thread on sci.physicis.relativity to see the WHOLE THREAD. The remnant that comes thru to ROM is only the tip of the iceberg of the thread.... the thread is actually 5 times as long on sci.physics.relativity........ most of it hecklers by the way from alt.atheism. ======================================== GEORGE HAMMOND'S PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE Primary site http://webspace.webring.com/people/eg/george_hammond Mirror site http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com HAMMOND FOLK SONG by Casey Bennetto http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3 =======================================
From: Geopelia on 27 Dec 2009 16:05 "George Hammond" <Nowhere1(a)notspam.com> wrote in message news:mc8fj5h4mv3jtma8999o8oeueldehi9cll(a)4ax.com... > On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 01:20:32 +1300, "Geopelia" > <phildoran(a)xtra.co.nz> wrote: > >> >>"<SNIP HECKLER>" <.@..com> wrote in message >>news:beaej5puc4pnv6u6to5h3ju31mibr239ep(a)4ax.com... >>> On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 01:07:13 -0800 (PST), Don Stockbauer >>> <don.stockbauer(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>>On Dec 27, 2:48 am, George Hammond <Nowhe...(a)notspam.com> wrote: >>>>> On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 14:34:50 +1300, "Geopelia" >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <phildo...(a)xtra.co.nz> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >"George Hammond" <Nowhe...(a)notspam.com> wrote in message >>>>> >news:4qucj59sj8t5qe58do5ekkqcn27fck20og(a)4ax.com... >>>>> >> On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 01:15:29 +1300, "Geopelia" >>>>> >> <phildo...(a)xtra.co.nz> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >> How do not-ghosts chill a patch inside a room by 10 �F >>>>> >>>> quickly or flick a compass/magn�tometer after someone asks? Go >>>>> >>>> back >>>>> >>>> and read my other posts, arsehole. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -Aut >>>>> >>>>> >>>G: Aut isn't me! Anyway, I don't believe in ghosts. >>>>> >>>Geopelia >>>>> >>>>> >> [Hammond] >>>>> >> Dear Geopelia, >>>>> >> Mark L. Ferguson says someone else is posting under your >>>>> >> name; apparently "Autym D.C.": >>>>> >>>>> >(Geopelia) >>>>> >If somebody wants to be me, good luck to her. Would she like to swap >>>>> >bodies >>>>> >too? >>>>> >Sometimes I get a bit tired of being 80, especially when I have to do >>>>> >all >>>>> >the heavy work around the place. >>>>> >>>>> [Hammond] >>>>> Like I say it gets confusing when 3 or more people are >>>>> quoted in a single post unless people are using initials. >>>>> "Aut" is posting from google-groups while you are not, so >>>>> simply checking the headers will spot a forger immediately. >>>>"Gee, I wish WE had one of them Doomsday Devices!!! >>>> >>>> >>> [Hammond] >>> The U.S.A. does, and don't ever forget it. >> >>(Geopelia) >>I only use Google groups when my newsgroup server is down. >>I'm posting to rec.org.mensa; I suppose I ought to check all the cross >>posted groups too. >>Not the physics and relativity ones, as I don't know enough about those >>subjects. >> > [Hammond] > I'm a graduate physicist so I'm posting from > sci.physicis.relativity. > I crosspost but put the "followup header" to > sci.physicis.relativity so you have to read the thread on > sci.physicis.relativity to see the WHOLE THREAD. > The remnant that comes thru to ROM is only the tip of the > iceberg of the thread.... the thread is actually 5 times as > long on sci.physics.relativity........ most of it hecklers > by the way from alt.atheism. (Geopelia) Thank you. I'll have a look there
From: George Hammond on 27 Dec 2009 18:35
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 12:12:23 +0100, Bernhard Schornak <schornak(a)web.de> wrote: >George Hammond wrote: > >> [Hammond] >> Na, position is completely untenable. the most well >> known fact about intelligence is it increases linearly with >> age children. that is why you have to divide intelligence >> by age to get IQ. > >If Galileo hadn't had doubts about the 'untenable' >official 'truths', we still believed in a Universe >revolving around Earth. Doubt is the driving force >behind any scientific evolution. > > > [Hammond] The Heliocentric system was well known during the time of Galileo. It was first proposed by Aristarchus Samos in 250 BC. Several experts report that the reason the ancients didn't believe it was because no one could observe any stellar parallax which obviously would have resulted from any motion of the earth. Fact is they just had no idea how far away the stars actually were. > > > >> The second well-known fact is that the PFF also increases >> linearly with age and children. at the same time it is >> absolutely known that the flicker fusion frequency FFF >> remains absolutely constant for everyone. > >Obviously, humans not only have to train their mo- >toric subsystem. We also have to train how to eva- >luate input from our optical subsystem. As I told, >all optical impressions are filtered at low level, >feeding just the important things to the conscious >part of our brain. > > > [Hammond] All LAT is irrelevant to the proven factual existence of the PFF and is well known direct correlation with intelligence. > > > > If FFF does not change, it pro- >bably is a unique physical limit for each human. > > [Hammond] The fact that the FFF does not correlate with intelligence shows that there is no information processing involved in it. it is merely a bandwidth limit of the optical system, and is the same for everyone. it has absolutely NOTHING to do with human intelligence. This is not the case with the PFF which requires information processing in the brain and is therefore directly correlated with intelligence. > > > I >don't see how a physical limit of our optical sub- >system can limit other brain functions, especially >overall processing capability or creating synaptic >nodes and interconnection between them. The inter- >connection between synaptic nodes *does* influence >the IQ. The more there are, the higher the IQ. > >If I remember right, you posted an article, saying >a human brain is able to reorganise synaptic nodes >on demand. You should investigate this further, it >seems to be an interesting aspect of how our brain >really works. > > [Hammond] Brain science already knows all about it, and in fact this changing of the synaptic strengths on demand is caused by MICROTUBULE polymerization and depolymerization which can happen in milliseconds. > > >You did not answer how blind people match your FFF >scheme. Some blind people have extraordinary IQs - >even if they were born blind. Probably there is no >connection between the optical and data processing >subsystems, at all. > > > > [Hammond] Oh come on Bernie you're being ridiculous. Double amputees can't fill out a Stanford-Binet IQ test either. That doesn't mean that they don't have an IQ. Don't be absurd. > > .. >> They didn't have to use rocket science to determine that >> the reason for this is that the PFF involves cognitive >> comprehension of the pictures being displayed and being able >> to decide whether the current picture is different from the >> last one. that requires one bit of information processing, >> and since the information processing speed of an adult is >> known to be 16 bits per second we have immediately the >> scientific explanation of why the PFF for adults is 16 >> frames per second ( for normal IQ = 100). >> Na you're all wet claiming that the PFF is not a measure >> of IQ. the experts know better. > >What is your definition for 'one bit'? > > [Hammond] It's not my definition Bernie, it's the definition of the established experts that "one bit" is a simple yes-no answer to a simple binary decision question. in that case of a motion picture film the question is: "is this frame different than the last one". that requires one bit of information processing. turns out the average human being is only capable of processing that kind of question at 16 bits per second, which is why the average motion picture fusion frequency, PFF, is exactly 16 frames per second. By the way there are half a dozen other ways to measure human mental speed and it always comes out to be 16 bits per second for the average human being. These are well-established scientific facts Bernie and well documented in the professional literature. > > > > In general, >one bit is the smallest possible piece of informa- >tion. In Computer Sciences, this is the state of a >flipflop which either is on or off. Our brain uses >analog signals with an unlimited range of possible >states. The term 'bit' can't be applied to signals >with more than two states (with 'state' defined as >lower and upper voltage thresholds). > >Is '16 bit per second' a parallel (simultaneos) or >a serial (one after the other) data transfer? > > > [Hammond] 16 bits per second is the overall top level comprehension processing speed of the human brain. it correlates directly with IQ. it can be measured using video screens and pushbutton micro switches, it can be measured by the PFF, it can be measured by card counting techniques and half a dozen other well-known methods, and it ALWAYS comes out to be 16 bits per second for an adult with a normal average IQ of 100. > > > >>> No money, no website. When I find some spare time, I will >>> reply to the one or other posting. >>> >> [Hammond] >> Yeah the economy sucks over here too, unemployment has >> reached 10% nationwide. the usual suspects are responsible >> for of course but hopefully the Democrats under Obama are >> going to be able to clean up the situation. > >Like "Yes, we can't"? ;) > >>> Merry 'winter solstice' and a happy new year! >>> >>> Bernhard Schornak >>> >> [Hammond] >> Merry Christmas to you Bernie, and may the Sun god shine >> on your endeavors. > >Back to you multiple times. Actually, I believe in >'chaos theory'. Everything happens by chance. Only >a few basic rules determine how objects must/might >act with other objects. The Universe works well on >its own. It silently ignores whatever we postulate >as 'untenable' physical laws. > >Greetings from Augsburg > >Bernhard Schornak > > [Hammond] The PFF is ancient history and I have already incorporated it in my theory and it is well known and understood. As you can see from the name of this thread has now pushed on PAST the scientific proof of God which has been signed sealed and delivered. I am now taking up the question of the existence or nonexistence of "life after death" so-called. This question has newly arisen because of the recent discovery of the microtubule-cytoskeleton high-speed microwave coupled computing system in the brain. This was first put on the map by Sir Roger Penrose in his celebrated book _ Shadows of the Mind_ in 1994 and has caused an explosion of research in this area ever since. The latest theory is that these microtubules which are 25 nano meter diameter filaments inside the neuron cells are in fact a hollow "optical waveguides" connecting every cell of the brain together at the speed of light. I have pointed out that the size and speed of this computer in the brain makes it actually possible to "download" a 1 ms second "death dream" at the moment of death which would contain enough information for the dearly departed to live on for a YEAR in cyber paradise or "heaven" so-called. If you are interested in this please read the original target post at the start of this thread. ======================================== GEORGE HAMMOND'S PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE Primary site http://webspace.webring.com/people/eg/george_hammond Mirror site http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com HAMMOND FOLK SONG by Casey Bennetto http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3 ======================================= |