From: Autymn D. C. on
On Dec 25, 4:07 am, George Hammond <Nowhe...(a)notspam.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 00:18:05 +1300, "Geopelia"
> <phildo...(a)xtra.co.nz> wrote:
> [Hammond]
> NOTE:  Dear Geopelia, if you would please label your
> statments [Geopelia] I would appreciate it.... for instance
> there is some jeck calling himself [Autumn D.C.] mixed into
> this post and I don't know who is saying what, [Hammond].

The jeck is you; and there is no Autumn D.C. She said one thing, and
clearly where after readan my post; your reading speed stands at -15 b/
s.

> [Hammond]
> Got me there.... I don't know what an "eldon" is?

Learn English.

> >> Don't be crazy, for chrissakes!
>
> >[Geopelia..?]
> >Too bad--ghosts, remote viewing, and lucid dreams/astral travel shoot
> >your theory down.  Ghosts and reincarnation also shoot Kristianity
> >down.
>
> [Hammond]
>    Hey, you're talking to a guy who has read F.W.H. Myers'
> two volume 1900 book (1200 pages) entitled _ Human
> Personality and it's Survival of Bodily Death_  from cover

"and it is Survival of.."?

> to cover.  It contains hundreds of published reports from
> the British Society for Psychical Research including
> hundreds of ghost stories, reports of clairvoyance,
> mediumistc communications with the dead etc. etc.
>   100 years later it has been entirely discredited as being
> nothing that cannot be explained by conventional psychology.
> There isn't one iota of hard scientific evidence in it
> proving that life after death exists.

Cite and show your work. Note I said reincarnation too; it leaves
marks and memories on young children. And what kind of life do you
mean?


> Like I just told you, 100 years of research by the British
> Society for psychical research failed to turn up anything
> amounting to hard scientific proof of  ghosts, communication
> with the dead, or proof of life after death.  it is nothing
[snip handwaving]

Recordings of ghosts wax by the week. They show up on many
instruments; kids and dogs can see them; they'v been witnessed by
millions. A bunch of shows on cable can show you them. You can't say
the same for Gods. Now, how do not-ghosts drain a new battery within
a few seconds? (If there were no sink, it would catch on fire and
blow up.) How do not-ghosts chill a patch inside a room by 10 °F
quickly or flick a compass/magnètometer after someone asks? Go back
and read my other posts, arsehole.

-Aut
From: Bernhard Schornak on
George Hammond wrote:

>>>>>>> According to Lehrl and fischer's equation (1990):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> IQ = 5 (mental speed in bits/sec) + 25
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thus if the average person's PFF is 15 frames/sec his IQ is
>>>>>>> 100. On the other hand if we take the flicker fusion
>>>>>>> frequency to be 40 cps and assume that a person has a PFF of
>>>>>>> 40 cps he would have to have an IQ of 40x5+25=225 and it is
>>>>>>> doubtful that anyone alive has an IQ that high.
>>
>> [Bernhard Schornak]
>> Hi George! Still alive and still preaching.
>>
> [Hammond]
> Jumped up Jesus!!... Nice to hear from you! I noticed
> your website went down, including your notorious ASPOG, and
> I figured the Nazis bastards finally got you or something...
> christ... it's good to hear from you.......where you been?

At home. Actually, I lost my job and had to find a way to
survive. ASPOG is 'SPOG debunked' now - it only exists on
my harddrive at the moment, though.

> Are you still living in Augsburg...

Of course!

> christ I hear that place
> was practically 3rd-Reich headquarters during the war....

Never. The main cities were Munich and N�rnberg (American
spelling is 'Nuremburg'), where the Trials took place. Of
course, the capital and the so called Reichshauptquartier (headquarters)
was Berlin. Augsburg is a really old city,
founded by the Romans in 15 B.C.). It's far too small for
the mass parades Hitler loved to orchestrate.

see: <http://www2.augsburg.de/index.php?id=12344>

> Hitler was actually born there wasn't he?

*Bertold Brecht* was born in Augsburg. Hitler was born in
Braunau (Austria). It's at the border between Germany and
Austria near Passau (Germany). He lived in Munich quite a
while before the NSDAP became the leading force in German
'Reichstag' (parliament).

>> Seems you did not learn anything from the PFF test I
>> posted a few years ago... ;)
>>
> [Hammond]
> I'm still studying that and I'm convinced the computer
> video system does not run at true speed... the gif.
> animation process is slowed down by the computer so that
> when you think you're looking at 40 frames/sec you're not,
> you're actually looking at 20 frames/sec. Figured out how
> to get TRUE SPEED using .gif animation????

Quite simple. My LCD flatscreen runs at 60 Hz, showing 60
frames per second. Recent hardware could work with *much*
higher framerates (at least 300 fps should be possible on
machine level). Nevertheless, I doubt that 'being able to
see' a particular framerate is correlated to intelligence
at all. The optical subsystem of a living beeing is hard-
wired with the brain at a very low level. What one 'sees'
is not what the sensors in the eye really reported. It is
a filtered 'extract', providing only information required
to make decisions how we should react to events. Applying
the PFF formula to blind people gives a fixed IQ of 25 in
any case. A human with an IQ of 25 is not able to stay a-
live - most vital functions of our body are controlled by
the brain. Only a few organs have their own 'controller',
working completely independent from the brain.

>> Merry Christmas and a happy new year. May the Schwartz be
>> with you!
>>
> [Hammond]
> Hey.... Merry Christmas to you Bernie.... I miss talking
> to you.... do you have a new website? Don't be a stranger.
> And I still think about your grandfather and his heroic
> stand against Hitler during the war.

No money, no website. When I find some spare time, I will
reply to the one or other posting. I'm busy with creating
yet another operating system named IDEOS (the Intelligent
Design Easy2use Operating System). 'Easy2use' is the main
tenet, lightning speed and reliability are others. Naming
the technology it's based upon 'Intelligent Design' is my
answer to the religious movement with the same name. With
the exception that my ID is of practical use... ;)


Merry 'winter solstice' and a happy new year!

Bernhard Schornak
From: Geopelia on

"Autymn D. C." <lysdexia(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:ce0d5e13-66ae-4037-abd7-c6d15b0574a4(a)u8g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
On Dec 25, 4:07 am, George Hammond <Nowhe...(a)notspam.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 00:18:05 +1300, "Geopelia"
> <phildo...(a)xtra.co.nz> wrote:
> [Hammond]
> NOTE: Dear Geopelia, if you would please label your
> statments [Geopelia] I would appreciate it.... for instance
> there is some jeck calling himself [Autumn D.C.] mixed into
> this post and I don't know who is saying what, [Hammond].

The jeck is you; and there is no Autumn D.C. She said one thing, and
clearly where after readan my post; your reading speed stands at -15 b/
s.

> [Hammond]
> Got me there.... I don't know what an "eldon" is?

Learn English.

> >> Don't be crazy, for chrissakes!
>
> >[Geopelia..?] Not Me! Geopelia
> >Too bad--ghosts, remote viewing, and lucid dreams/astral travel shoot
> >your theory down. Ghosts and reincarnation also shoot Kristianity
> >down.
>
> [Hammond]
> Hey, you're talking to a guy who has read F.W.H. Myers'
> two volume 1900 book (1200 pages) entitled _ Human
> Personality and it's Survival of Bodily Death_ from cover

"and it is Survival of.."?

> to cover. It contains hundreds of published reports from
> the British Society for Psychical Research including
> hundreds of ghost stories, reports of clairvoyance,
> mediumistc communications with the dead etc. etc.
> 100 years later it has been entirely discredited as being
> nothing that cannot be explained by conventional psychology.
> There isn't one iota of hard scientific evidence in it
> proving that life after death exists.

Cite and show your work. Note I said reincarnation too; it leaves
marks and memories on young children. And what kind of life do you
mean?


> Like I just told you, 100 years of research by the British
> Society for psychical research failed to turn up anything
> amounting to hard scientific proof of ghosts, communication
> with the dead, or proof of life after death. it is nothing
[snip handwaving]

Recordings of ghosts wax by the week. They show up on many
instruments; kids and dogs can see them; they'v been witnessed by
millions. A bunch of shows on cable can show you them. You can't say
the same for Gods. Now, how do not-ghosts drain a new battery within
a few seconds? (If there were no sink, it would catch on fire and
blow up.) How do not-ghosts chill a patch inside a room by 10 �F
quickly or flick a compass/magn�tometer after someone asks? Go back
and read my other posts, arsehole.

-Aut


From: George Hammond on
On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 10:39:31 +1300, "Geopelia"
<phildoran(a)xtra.co.nz> wrote:

>
>>>
>>>[Geopelia] (Not me)
>>>
>>>[Geopelia..?] (not me again)
>
>(Now that was really me. Geopelia)
>>>>
[Hammond]
I suggest people just put a single initial such as, G: ,
in your case, at the beginning of their posts so we can tell
who the heck is talking!
Professional (Listserv) forums use brackets such as
[Hammond], which is what I use.
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From: George Hammond on
On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 04:42:28 +0100, Bernhard Schornak
<schornak(a)web.de> wrote:

> I doubt that 'being able to
>see' a particular framerate is correlated to intelligence
>at all.
>
>
[Hammond]
Na, position is completely untenable. the most well
known fact about intelligence is it increases linearly with
age children. that is why you have to divide intelligence
by age to get IQ.
The second well-known fact is that the PFF also increases
linearly with age and children. at the same time it is
absolutely known that the flicker fusion frequency FFF
remains absolutely constant for everyone.
They didn't have to use rocket science to determine that
the reason for this is that the PFF involves cognitive
comprehension of the pictures being displayed and being able
to decide whether the current picture is different from the
last one. that requires one bit of information processing,
and since the information processing speed of an adult is
known to be 16 bits per second we have immediately the
scientific explanation of why the PFF for adults is 16
frames per second ( for normal IQ = 100).
Na you're all wet claiming that the PFF is not a measure
of IQ. the experts know better.
>
>
>
> The optical subsystem of a living beeing is hard-
>wired with the brain at a very low level. What one 'sees'
>is not what the sensors in the eye really reported.
>
>
[Hammond]
Na, you are confusing PFF with FFF.
>
>>> Merry Christmas and a happy new year. May the Schwartz be
>>> with you!
>>>
>> [Hammond]
>> Hey.... Merry Christmas to you Bernie.... I miss talking
>> to you.... do you have a new website? Don't be a stranger.
>> And I still think about your grandfather and his heroic
>> stand against Hitler during the war.
>
>No money, no website. When I find some spare time, I will
>reply to the one or other posting.
>
>
[Hammond]
Yeah the economy sucks over here too, unemployment has
reached 10% nationwide. the usual suspects are responsible
for of course but hopefully the Democrats under Obama are
going to be able to clean up the situation.
>
>
>
> I'm busy with creating
>yet another operating system named IDEOS (the Intelligent
>Design Easy2use Operating System). 'Easy2use' is the main
>tenet, lightning speed and reliability are others. Naming
>the technology it's based upon 'Intelligent Design' is my
>answer to the religious movement with the same name. With
>the exception that my ID is of practical use... ;)
>
[Hammond]
Well I'm glad to see that something good came out of
Intelligent Design. I've talked to William Dembski
personally by e-mail a number of times. He has seven, count
em seven, PhD's! but I didn't find him to be much of a
whizbang when it came to applying scientific analysis to
theology
>
>Merry 'winter solstice' and a happy new year!
>
>Bernhard Schornak
>
>
[Hammond]
Merry Christmas to you Bernie, and may the Sun god shine
on your endeavors.
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