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From: Geopelia on 21 Dec 2009 06:09 "Don Stockbauer" <don.stockbauer(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:0a7af13a-6960-4a64-b55b-466287ef0fab(a)j14g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... On Dec 20, 9:36 pm, George Hammond <Nowhe...(a)notspam.com> wrote: > On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 01:02:42 +1300, "Geopelia" > > > > <phildo...(a)xtra.co.nz> wrote: > > >"George Hammond" <Nowhe...(a)notspam.com> wrote in message > >news:o1g0i5h1ckfsh51q71a6s77r07v13o1fmj(a)4ax.com... > >> LOG 12-9-09 THE DETAILS OF LIFE AFTER DEATH > > >> Copyright December 2009, George Hammond > > >> In a previous USENET post (above) I detailed how a short > >> millisecond signal in the microtubule system of the brain at > >> Froehlich's frequency could easily contain a year of human > >> experience, and thus even though the bedside observer would > >> see the person expire in a fraction of a second, the dearly > >> departed would subjectively live on for a year in > >> cyber-paradise despite his Frohlich-speed millisecond > >> demise. > >> I've been thinking some more about the death stream > >> download after talking to Stuart Hameroff by e-mail. > >> Supposedly the death dream would be pre-recorded in a > >> running-edit mode during your entire life, every hour, every > >> second of every day. It would constantly be edited and > >> distilled, sort of the same process that they use to cut and > >> edit a Hollywood movie. This in fact, might even be the > >> primary function of nocturnal dreaming. > >> So this edited life after death scenario, or dream, is > >> residing in the microtubule system of the brain ready to > >> download in a few milliseconds at a moments notice should > >> death occur. The question then arises as to why this dream > >> would automatically download when you die. My answer to > >> that is that it must be completely natural, that is a > >> default mechanism of the death process itself. Supposedly, > >> the death dream is created by a natural mechanism having to > >> do with the growth deficit of the brain, and then when you > >> die, this pent-up font of "flat space" reality, by the same > >> token, just automatically bursts forth and floods the entire > >> cytoskeleton of the brain. And this is what produces "life > >> after death" so-called. > >> The underlying idea here is that the well-known Secular > >> Trend growth deficit causes a neuron shortage and therefore > >> the brain cannot actually perceive "true reality", that is > >> "flat subjective space"... it can only perceive a "curved > >> version" (truncation) of subjective space-time. a "curved > >> version" of reality as it were. However, our brain is able > >> to detect that what we are seeing is not completely real, > >> i.e. is curved rather than flat, so what it does, in some > >> analog fashion or other, is compute the "flat space > >> extrapolation" of what we actually see. Of course the > >> microtubule system cannot present this extrapolation to the > >> neuronal system because the neuronal system is not big > >> enough to display it. But it remains "pent-up" or "latent" > >> somewhere in the cytoskeleton, and through some process of > >> subconscious mentation, dreaming etc., it gets composed and > >> edited into what we are now calling "an afterlife dream > >> world". > >> Okay, that is how and why it gets composed. Now we have > >> to address, how and why it downloads at death. Presumably, > >> death occurs from the top down. That is, the neuronal > >> system shuts down or "flat lines" first. And then begins > >> the slower process of the disintegration of the > >> cytoskeleton-microtubule system. My first intuition would > >> be that the flat lining of the neuronal system is what > >> triggers the afterlife download in the cytoskeleton. Perhaps > >> for instance, the neuronal-cytoskeletal system is originally > >> a "closed loop" feedback system and when the neuronal system > >> flatlines at death the cytoskeleton system goes "open-loop" > >> and this simply causes the cytoskeleton system to "dump" any > >> heretofore undisplayed information into the entire > >> cytoskeleton whereas previously it was negative feedback > >> from the neuronal system that was truncating that > >> information and keeping it in check, i.e. keeping it pent-up > >> in the microtubule memory. That's one of certainly many > >> possibilities. > >> And I must add here, that this death dream signal may > >> not only flood just the cytoskeleton of the brain, it could > >> just as easily flood the cytoskeleton of the entire body > >> since the entire cytoskeleton of the brain is interconnected > >> by microwave 'gap junctions'. This means that your entire > >> body and your entire brain, your entire sensory apparatus, > >> motor apparatus, and cognitive system would be experiencing > >> this dream firsthand. It would in other words, be > >> completely real! This is why the microtubule computer in > >> the brain is sufficient to do the job of Tipler's > >> "astronomical sized"computer". His computer was designed to > >> synthesize a human being from scratch, while nature has the > >> advantage of having the actual physical body in the form of > >> the cytoskeleton actually present in the microtubule > >> computer! This reduces the size of the necessary computer > >> by a "double exponential" sized factor! And this literally > >> brings the problem down to earth. > > >[Geopelia] > >How long after death does all this happen? > > [Hammond] > Within a fraction of a second. And it only lasts for > another fraction of a second after that. > Point is, in that fraction of a second the dearly > departed experiences a year or more in Heaven due to a time > dilation. > > >[Geopelia] > >My husband has died and been revived several times. (No heartbeat etc for > >several minutes). > >He experienced nothing at all, he just wasn't there. > > [Hammond] > He doesn't REMEMBER anything happening... but according to > this theory if you die and are revived, you actually go to > Heaven and come back to Earth again! This could occur a > number of times and you would remember NONE of it! Not only > that, if you die a second time and get to Heaven again, you > will have absolutely no memory of ever being there before! > > >[Geopelia] > >Would it happen after all brain activity ceases, and when there is no > >possibility of revival? > > [Hammond] > It happens when the brain "flat lines" meaning all EEG > activity ceases. The cytoskeleton remains functioning for > up to 30 minutes after brain death according to the > authorities. According to the theory it happens in a few > thousandths of a second.... which by the way would confirm > St. Pauls famous revalation given in I Corinthians Ch 15 vs > 52 that "..at the last trump, in the twinkling of an eye, > the dead shall be raised". > Meanwhile, it makes no difference if you are revived... > you simply come back to Earth with no memory of going to > Heaven even though you have been there and back again. > > NOTA BENE: > Bear in mind this is only a plausible scientific > hypothesis, not a proven fact!!!! How could it be proved, if the revived "dead" have no memory of it? Perhaps some computer could be devised to tap into the cytoskeleton?
From: George Hammond on 21 Dec 2009 13:58 On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 01:22:20 -0800 (PST), Don Stockbauer <don.stockbauer(a)gmail.com> wrote: >On Dec 20, 9:36�pm, George Hammond <Nowhe...(a)notspam.com> wrote: >> On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 01:02:42 +1300, "Geopelia" >> >> >> >> <phildo...(a)xtra.co.nz> wrote: >> >> >"George Hammond" <Nowhe...(a)notspam.com> wrote in message >> >news:o1g0i5h1ckfsh51q71a6s77r07v13o1fmj(a)4ax.com... >> >> LOG � 12-9-09 � THE DETAILS OF LIFE AFTER DEATH >> >> >> Copyright December 2009, George Hammond >> >> >> � In a previous USENET post (above) I detailed how a short >> >> millisecond signal in the microtubule system of the brain at >> >> Froehlich's frequency could easily contain a year of human >> >> experience, and thus �even though the bedside observer would >> >> see the person expire in a fraction of a second, the dearly >> >> departed would subjectively live on for a year in >> >> cyber-paradise despite his Frohlich-speed millisecond >> >> demise. >> >> � I've been thinking some more about the death stream >> >> download after talking to Stuart Hameroff by e-mail. >> >> Supposedly the death dream would be pre-recorded in a >> >> running-edit mode during your entire life, every hour, every >> >> second of every day. �It would constantly be edited and >> >> distilled, sort of the same process that they use to cut and >> >> edit a Hollywood movie. �This in fact, might even be the >> >> primary function of �nocturnal dreaming. >> >> � So this edited life after death scenario, or dream, is >> >> residing in the microtubule system of the brain ready to >> >> download in a few milliseconds at a moments notice should >> >> death occur. �The question then arises as to why this dream >> >> would automatically download when you die. �My answer to >> >> that is that it must be completely natural, that is a >> >> default mechanism of the death process itself. Supposedly, >> >> the death dream is created by a natural mechanism having to >> >> do with the growth deficit of the brain, and then when you >> >> die, this pent-up font of �"flat space" reality, by the same >> >> token, just automatically bursts forth and floods the entire >> >> cytoskeleton of the brain. �And this is what produces "life >> >> after death" so-called. >> >> � The underlying idea here is that the well-known Secular >> >> Trend growth deficit causes a neuron shortage and therefore >> >> the brain cannot actually perceive "true reality", that is >> >> "flat subjective space"... it can only perceive a "curved >> >> version" (truncation) of subjective space-time. a "curved >> >> version" of reality as it were. �However, our brain is able >> >> to detect that what we are seeing is not completely real, >> >> i.e. is curved rather than flat, so what it does, in some >> >> analog fashion or other, is compute the "flat space >> >> extrapolation" of what we actually see. �Of course the >> >> microtubule system cannot present this extrapolation to the >> >> neuronal system because the neuronal system is not big >> >> enough to display it. �But it remains "pent-up" or "latent" >> >> somewhere in the cytoskeleton, and through some process of >> >> subconscious mentation, dreaming etc., it gets composed and >> >> edited into what we are now calling �"an afterlife dream >> >> world". >> >> � Okay, that is how and why it gets composed. �Now we have >> >> to address, how and why it downloads at death. �Presumably, >> >> death occurs from the top down. �That is, the neuronal >> >> system shuts down or "flat lines" first. �And then begins >> >> the slower process of the disintegration of the >> >> cytoskeleton-microtubule system. �My first intuition would >> >> be that the flat lining of the neuronal system is what >> >> triggers the afterlife download in the cytoskeleton. Perhaps >> >> for instance, the neuronal-cytoskeletal system is originally >> >> a "closed loop" feedback system and when the neuronal system >> >> flatlines at death the cytoskeleton system goes "open-loop" >> >> and this simply causes the cytoskeleton system to "dump" any >> >> heretofore undisplayed information into the entire >> >> cytoskeleton �whereas previously it was negative feedback >> >> from the neuronal system that was truncating that >> >> information and keeping it in check, i.e. keeping it pent-up >> >> in the microtubule memory. �That's one of certainly many >> >> possibilities. >> >> � And I must add here, �that this death dream signal may >> >> not only flood just the cytoskeleton of the brain, it could >> >> just as easily flood the cytoskeleton of the entire body >> >> since the entire cytoskeleton of the brain is interconnected >> >> by microwave 'gap junctions'. �This means that your entire >> >> body and your entire brain, your entire sensory apparatus, >> >> motor apparatus, and cognitive system would be experiencing >> >> this dream firsthand. �It would in other words, be >> >> completely real! �This is why the microtubule computer in >> >> the brain is sufficient to do the job of �Tipler's >> >> "astronomical sized"computer". �His computer was designed to >> >> synthesize a human being from scratch, while nature has the >> >> advantage of having the actual physical body in the form of >> >> the cytoskeleton actually present in the microtubule >> >> computer! �This reduces the size of the necessary computer >> >> by a "double exponential" sized factor! �And this literally >> >> brings the problem down to earth. >> >> >[Geopelia] >> >How long after death does all this happen? >> >> [Hammond] >> � �Within a fraction of a second. �And it only lasts for >> another fraction of a second after that. >> � �Point is, in that fraction of a second the dearly >> departed experiences a year or more in Heaven due to a time >> dilation. >> >> >[Geopelia] >> >My husband has died and been revived several times. (No heartbeat etc for >> >several minutes). >> >He experienced nothing at all, he just wasn't there. >> >> [Hammond] >> � He doesn't REMEMBER anything happening... but according to >> this theory if you die and are revived, you actually go to >> Heaven and come back to Earth again! �This could occur a >> number of times and you would remember NONE of it! �Not only >> that, if you die a second time and get to Heaven again, you >> will have absolutely no memory of ever being there before! >> >> >[Geopelia] >> >Would it happen after all brain activity ceases, and when there is no >> >possibility of revival? >> >> [Hammond] >> � �It happens when the brain "flat lines" meaning all EEG >> activity ceases. �The cytoskeleton remains functioning for >> up to 30 minutes after brain death according to the >> authorities. �According to the theory it happens in a few >> thousandths of a second.... which by the way would confirm >> St. Pauls famous revalation given in I Corinthians Ch 15 vs >> 52 that "..at the last trump, in the twinkling of an eye, >> the dead shall be raised". >> � �Meanwhile, it makes no difference if you are revived... >> you simply come back to Earth with no memory of going to >> Heaven even though you have been there and back again. >> >> NOTA BENE: >> � Bear in mind this is only a plausible scientific >> hypothesis, not a proven fact!!!! >> ======================================== >> GEORGE �HAMMOND'S PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE >> � � � � � � � � � � � Primary sitehttp://webspace.webring.com/people/eg/george_hammond >> � � � � � � � � � � � Mirror site >> � � �http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com >> � � �HAMMOND FOLK SONG by Casey Bennetto >> � � �http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3 > > >The God meme and The Universe meme are identical (Pantheism). > > [Hammond] God is not a meme. God is an invisible man caused by the curvature of subjective reality which is caused by the Secular Trend growth deficit of the brain. ======================================== GEORGE HAMMOND'S PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE Primary site http://webspace.webring.com/people/eg/george_hammond Mirror site http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com HAMMOND FOLK SONG by Casey Bennetto http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3 =======================================
From: Autymn D. C. on 22 Dec 2009 12:13 On Dec 21, 9:47 pm, George Hammond <Nowhe...(a)notspam.com> wrote: > >> 15-16 cps correlates directly with intelligence (Reidel 1966 > >> and many others including Lehrl and Fischer (1990). Say FFF > >> is 40 cps. According to Lehrl and fischer's equation > >> (1990): > >> IQ = 5 (mental speed in bits/sec) + 25 > > >> Thus if the average person's PFF is 15 frames/sec his IQ is > >> 100. On the other hand if we take the flicker fusion > >> frequency to be 40 cps and assume that a person has a PFF of > >> 40 cps he would have to have an IQ of 40x5+25=225 and it is > >> doubtful that anyone alive has an IQ that high. Hmm, I can read up to 2700 words ea minut. Each word has fivesix staffers, but not all are bits--if half are witten, those come to 2·75 2700/60 = over 120 bits ea second, and my "IQ" be over 640. If instead each word is one bit, 250. So how is mental speed defined?-- what operations? The middle-100 IQ is for a reader at 330 or 900; why, 300 is more common so I'll take my 640-IQ. By the way, I can see detail down to 15 microns: http://google.com/groups?q=Autymn+-autumn+scratches. > >It's a pity nobody can come back and describe what they saw once they were > >past the point where revival is possible. > > [Hammond] > THAT is the crux of the entire mystery of Life After Death > and why NOBODY knows if it actually exists! Shyster, this /is/ life after death. Kids could; astral travellers could. Why do you think the planes are persistent? (Argand planes-- punny. My theory of ghosts is thas they're complex elèctric fields, who can dwell in the orghanic wood or chalk frames of a building; when mekanics are complex, they can time travel, and borrow potential to, say, toss a brick at goofs or speak on tape.) > This means cell division is an "all or nothing" process. > This then would tell us that the "ungrown brain" simply does > not exist. So if the ungrown brain is causing the > unconscious mind how can the unconscious mind exist if the > ungrown brain doesn't exist? When did it ungrow? > "unconscious mind". Then again, whether or not the microbe whether or not = whether or not whether, ocsýmòròn > And by the way, there is absolutely NOTHING mysterious > about this "unconscious mind". I mean, you can literally > see it and hear it when you talk to another person! I mean > when you talk to her child and only takes you a few moments > to realize what they can comprehend and what they can't Who are they? > comprehend. The same is true of adults! and all adults are > different! so when you're talking to anyone you always know > that you have to be careful about what you say and how you > say it because you can see by looking at the person what it > is that they do comprehend and don't comprehend. And guess > what; what they do not comprehend is EXACTLY the so-called > "Unconscious mind"! misnomers: http://google.com/groups?q=Autymn+-autumn+gripping+grasping > Incidentally, it is a psychological properties of this > unconscious mind that makes a person funny or entertaining > or interesting or even menacing or dangerous etc. etc. etc. a what? -Aut
From: Autymn D. C. on 22 Dec 2009 12:16 On Dec 21, 10:58 am, George Hammond <Nowhe...(a)notspam.com> wrote: > On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 01:22:20 -0800 (PST), Don Stockbauer > <don.stockba...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >The God meme and The Universe meme are identical (Pantheism). > > [Hammond] > God is not a meme. God is an invisible man caused by the > curvature of subjective reality which is caused by the > Secular Trend growth deficit of the brain. You're wriht; your imaginary bent man is not a meme.
From: Autymn D. C. on 23 Dec 2009 09:30
On Dec 20, 7:05 pm, "THE BORG" <b...(a)gone.com> wrote: > "Zinnic" <zeenr...(a)gate.net> wrote in message > > news:8c80dd5e-2d54-4c07-91c2-ed218a624f7d(a)3g2000vbp.googlegroups.com... > On Dec 15, 8:47 pm, "bigflet...(a)gmail.com" > <bigflet...(a)gmail.com> > wrote:> On Dec 15, 6:07 pm, George Hammond <Nowhe...(a)notspam.com> > > wrote: > > > > On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 19:53:49 -0800 (PST), darwinist > > > > At any rate, let me outline what were up against. The > > > discovery of the world's first scientific proof of God > > > is a > > > fait accompli. It is signed sealed and delivered and has > > > been published in the peer-reviewed literature.- Hide > > > quoted text - > > Brian, I guess George will find nothing to disagree with > here! > > What people don't realize is that there would not only be > scientific proof of God, but there would be mathematical > proof, artistic proof, natural proof, synchronous proof, and > proof would occur in every which way. And there isn't; I even wrote a loghical and mathematical proof against the three kinds of gods on Wikipedia's Humanities help desk one time, and nobody could rebut. I also drew about 40 readers to my Beliefnet profile where there are proofs and links to scriptural refutations. > The fact that Earth exists is proof. > What more do you require? > Only idiots think Earth came out of nothing and nowhere with > no cause nor reason nor intelligent design. God = out of nothing and nowhere and no cause nor reason God = not intelligent Earth is proof of the Earth. Everything makes itself. Get the hell out, dolt. [snip addl-babbl] > Evidence and proof that matter is illusory are everywhere. > THE BORG There are no illusions, only delusions. -Aut http://youtube.com/alysdexia http://twitter.com/alysdexia/favorites |