From: George Hammond on
LOG 12-9-09 THE DETAILS OF LIFE AFTER DEATH

Copyright December 2009, George Hammond

In a previous USENET post (above) I detailed how a short
millisecond signal in the microtubule system of the brain at
Froehlich�s frequency could easily contain a year of human
experience, and thus even though the bedside observer would
see the person expire in a fraction of a second, the dearly
departed would subjectively live on for a year in
cyber-paradise despite his Frohlich-speed millisecond
demise.
I�ve been thinking some more about the death stream
download after talking to Stuart Hameroff by e-mail.
Supposedly the death dream would be pre-recorded in a
running-edit mode during your entire life, every hour, every
second of every day. It would constantly be edited and
distilled, sort of the same process that they use to cut and
edit a Hollywood movie. This in fact, might even be the
primary function of nocturnal dreaming.
So this edited life after death scenario, or dream, is
residing in the microtubule system of the brain ready to
download in a few milliseconds at a moments notice should
death occur. The question then arises as to why this dream
would automatically download when you die. My answer to
that is that it must be completely natural, that is a
default mechanism of the death process itself. Supposedly,
the death dream is created by a natural mechanism having to
do with the growth deficit of the brain, and then when you
die, this pent-up font of "flat space" reality, by the same
token, just automatically bursts forth and floods the entire
cytoskeleton of the brain. And this is what produces "life
after death" so-called.
The underlying idea here is that the well-known Secular
Trend growth deficit causes a neuron shortage and therefore
the brain cannot actually perceive "true reality", that is
"flat subjective space"�.. it can only perceive a "curved
version" (truncation) of subjective space-time� a "curved
version" of reality as it were. However, our brain is able
to detect that what we are seeing is not completely real,
i.e. is curved rather than flat, so what it does, in some
analog fashion or other, is compute the "flat space
extrapolation" of what we actually see. Of course the
microtubule system cannot present this extrapolation to the
neuronal system because the neuronal system is not big
enough to display it. But it remains "pent-up" or "latent"
somewhere in the cytoskeleton, and through some process of
subconscious mentation, dreaming etc., it gets composed and
edited into what we are now calling "an afterlife dream
world".
Okay, that is how and why it gets composed. Now we have
to address, how and why it downloads at death. Presumably,
death occurs from the top down. That is, the neuronal
system shuts down or "flat lines" first. And then begins
the slower process of the disintegration of the
cytoskeleton-microtubule system. My first intuition would
be that the flat lining of the neuronal system is what
triggers the afterlife download in the cytoskeleton. Perhaps
for instance, the neuronal-cytoskeletal system is originally
a "closed loop" feedback system and when the neuronal system
flatlines at death the cytoskeleton system goes "open-loop"
and this simply causes the cytoskeleton system to "dump" any
heretofore undisplayed information into the entire
cytoskeleton whereas previously it was negative feedback
from the neuronal system that was truncating that
information and keeping it in check, i.e. keeping it pent-up
in the microtubule memory. That�s one of certainly many
possibilities.
And I must add here, that this death dream signal may
not only flood just the cytoskeleton of the brain, it could
just as easily flood the cytoskeleton of the entire body
since the entire cytoskeleton of the brain is interconnected
by microwave �gap junctions�. This means that your entire
body and your entire brain, your entire sensory apparatus,
motor apparatus, and cognitive system would be experiencing
this dream firsthand. It would in other words, be
completely real! This is why the microtubule computer in
the brain is sufficient to do the job of Tipler�s
"astronomical sized"computer". His computer was designed to
synthesize a human being from scratch, while nature has the
advantage of having the actual physical body in the form of
the cytoskeleton actually present in the microtubule
computer! This reduces the size of the necessary computer
by a "double exponential" sized factor! And this literally
brings the problem down to earth.

Serious intellectual commentary is invited, hecklers will be
killfiled.
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From: darwinist on
On Dec 10, 11:30 am, George Hammond <Nowhe...(a)notspam.com> wrote:
> LOG   12-9-09   THE DETAILS OF LIFE AFTER DEATH
>
> Copyright December 2009, George Hammond
>
>    In a previous USENET post (above) I detailed how a short
> millisecond signal in the microtubule system of the brain at
> Froehlich s frequency could easily contain a year of human
> experience, and thus  even though the bedside observer would
> see the person expire in a fraction of a second, the dearly
> departed would subjectively live on for a year in
> cyber-paradise despite his Frohlich-speed millisecond
> demise.
>    I ve been thinking some more about the death stream
> download after talking to Stuart Hameroff by e-mail.
> Supposedly the death dream would be pre-recorded in a
> running-edit mode during your entire life, every hour, every
> second of every day.  It would constantly be edited and
> distilled, sort of the same process that they use to cut and
> edit a Hollywood movie.  This in fact, might even be the
> primary function of  nocturnal dreaming.
>    So this edited life after death scenario, or dream, is
> residing in the microtubule system of the brain ready to
> download in a few milliseconds at a moments notice should
> death occur.  The question then arises as to why this dream
> would automatically download when you die.  My answer to
> that is that it must be completely natural, that is a
> default mechanism of the death process itself. Supposedly,
> the death dream is created by a natural mechanism having to
> do with the growth deficit of the brain, and then when you
> die, this pent-up font of  "flat space" reality, by the same
> token, just automatically bursts forth and floods the entire
> cytoskeleton of the brain.  And this is what produces "life
> after death" so-called.
>    The underlying idea here is that the well-known Secular
> Trend growth deficit causes a neuron shortage and therefore
> the brain cannot actually perceive "true reality", that is
> "flat subjective space" .. it can only perceive a "curved
> version" (truncation) of subjective space-time a "curved
> version" of reality as it were.  However, our brain is able
> to detect that what we are seeing is not completely real,
> i.e. is curved rather than flat, so what it does, in some
> analog fashion or other, is compute the "flat space
> extrapolation" of what we actually see.  Of course the
> microtubule system cannot present this extrapolation to the
> neuronal system because the neuronal system is not big
> enough to display it.  But it remains "pent-up" or "latent"
> somewhere in the cytoskeleton, and through some process of
> subconscious mentation, dreaming etc., it gets composed and
> edited into what we are now calling  "an afterlife dream
> world".
>    Okay, that is how and why it gets composed.  Now we have
> to address, how and why it downloads at death.  Presumably,
> death occurs from the top down.  That is, the neuronal
> system shuts down or "flat lines" first.  And then begins
> the slower process of the disintegration of the
> cytoskeleton-microtubule system.  My first intuition would
> be that the flat lining of the neuronal system is what
> triggers the afterlife download in the cytoskeleton. Perhaps
> for instance, the neuronal-cytoskeletal system is originally
> a "closed loop" feedback system and when the neuronal system
> flatlines at death the cytoskeleton system goes "open-loop"
> and this simply causes the cytoskeleton system to "dump" any
> heretofore undisplayed information into the entire
> cytoskeleton  whereas previously it was negative feedback
> from the neuronal system that was truncating that
> information and keeping it in check, i.e. keeping it pent-up
> in the microtubule memory.  That s one of certainly many
> possibilities.
>    And I must add here,  that this death dream signal may
> not only flood just the cytoskeleton of the brain, it could
> just as easily flood the cytoskeleton of the entire body
> since the entire cytoskeleton of the brain is interconnected
> by microwave gap junctions .  This means that your entire
> body and your entire brain, your entire sensory apparatus,
> motor apparatus, and cognitive system would be experiencing
> this dream firsthand.  It would in other words, be
> completely real!  This is why the microtubule computer in
> the brain is sufficient to do the job of  Tipler s
> "astronomical sized"computer".  His computer was designed to
> synthesize a human being from scratch, while nature has the
> advantage of having the actual physical body in the form of
> the cytoskeleton actually present in the microtubule
> computer!  This reduces the size of the necessary computer
> by a "double exponential" sized factor!  And this literally
> brings the problem down to earth.
>
> Serious intellectual commentary is invited, hecklers will be
> killfiled.
> ========================================
> GEORGE  HAMMOND'S PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE
>                       Primary sitehttp://webspace.webring.com/people/eg/george_hammond
>                       Mirror site
>      http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com
>      HAMMOND FOLK SONG by Casey Bennetto
>      http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3
> =======================================

This is an interesting theory. I wonder how one would go about testing
it empirically.
From: Tunel Vision on
On Dec 10, 1:30 am, George Hammond <Nowhe...(a)notspam.com> wrote:
> LOG 12-9-09 THE DETAILS OF LIFE AFTER DEATH
>
> Copyright December 2009, George Hammond

you copyright the December month !??

>
> In a previous USENET post (above) I detailed how a short
> millisecond signal in the microtubule system of the brain at
> Froehlich s frequency could easily contain a year of human
> experience,

you misunderstand time,

you cannot contain a year of time!

> and thus even though the bedside observer would
> see the person expire in a fraction of a second, the dearly
> departed would subjectively live on for a year in
> cyber-paradise despite his Frohlich-speed millisecond
> demise.

wrong again, he never die, with proof

> I ve been thinking some more about the death stream
> download after talking to Stuart Hameroff by e-mail.
> Supposedly the death dream would be pre-recorded in a
> running-edit mode during your entire life, every hour, every
> second of every day. It would constantly be edited and
> distilled, sort of the same process that they use to cut and
> edit a Hollywood movie. This in fact, might even be the
> primary function of nocturnal dreaming.

way too simplistic, you dont understand

> So this edited life after death scenario, or dream, is
> residing in the microtubule system of the brain ready to
> download in a few milliseconds at a moments notice should
> death occur. The question then arises as to why this dream

has nothing to do with pre-formated dreams nor downloads

> would automatically download when you die. My answer to
> that is that it must be completely natural, that is a
> default mechanism of the death process itself. Supposedly,

you are totally misconcepted

> the death dream is created by a natural mechanism having to
> do with the growth deficit of the brain, and then when you
> die, this pent-up font of "flat space" reality, by the same
> token, just automatically bursts forth and floods the entire
> cytoskeleton of the brain. And this is what produces "life
> after death" so-called.

no, wrong again, no need for whatever you say

your rest of misconceptions i delete, mercifully
From: John Stafford on
In article
<e0bd139f-1d04-41fa-8cc5-6e13834b7625(a)13g2000prl.googlegroups.com>,
darwinist <darwinist(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> On Dec 10, 11:30�am, George Hammond <Nowhe...(a)notspam.com> wrote:
> > LOG � 12-9-09 � THE DETAILS OF LIFE AFTER DEATH
> >
> > Copyright December 2009, George Hammond
> >

> This is an interesting theory. I wonder how one would go about testing
> it empirically.

First one has to know whether Frohlich Condensates even exist. They have
not yet been observed. Next, we would have to know whether they can
possibly exist in our relatively cool body.

Next, we have to know whether a quantum state can last a millisecond
_anywhere_, and especially a microtubule. That's a long damned time.

We must also reconcile this 'secular trend growth deficit' against
research that shows that it is _increasing_ rapidly in Western cultures,
although it has varied over the history of humankind.

Then perhaps Mr. Hammond will explain (hopefully with an illustration)
what he means by 'curved/truncated subjective time/space'.

That's just get _started_. So far, he has presented no science.
From: darwinist on
On Dec 10, 9:20 am, John Stafford <n...(a)droffats.net> wrote:
> In article
> <e0bd139f-1d04-41fa-8cc5-6e13834b7...(a)13g2000prl.googlegroups.com>,
>
>  darwinist <darwin...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Dec 10, 11:30 am, George Hammond <Nowhe...(a)notspam.com> wrote:
> > > LOG 12-9-09 THE DETAILS OF LIFE AFTER DEATH
>
> > > Copyright December 2009, George Hammond
>
> > This is an interesting theory. I wonder how one would go about testing
> > it empirically.
>
> First one has to know whether Frohlich Condensates even exist. They have
> not yet been observed. Next, we would have to know whether they can
> possibly exist in our relatively cool body.
>
> Next, we have to know whether a quantum state can last a millisecond
> _anywhere_, and especially a microtubule. That's a long damned time.
>
> We must also reconcile this 'secular trend growth deficit' against
> research that shows that it is _increasing_ rapidly in Western cultures,
> although it has varied over the history of humankind.
>
> Then perhaps Mr. Hammond will explain (hopefully with an illustration)
> what he means by 'curved/truncated subjective time/space'.
>
> That's just get _started_. So far, he has presented no science.

You just had to go there didn't you? A perfectly optimistic theory
about life after death and you use the "s" word.

In any case it seems the theory stated is actually about life *before*
death, but why split hairs? I'm sure we can make it about life after
death with only a little acrobatics:

Perhaps this dream - once it begins - can leave the cytoskeleton and
still exist, like an image that leaves a projector and maintains its
structure as it bounces off the wall into your eye. This quantum
entity drifts through space, thereby finding an "infinite life" in
"heaven" as a "disembodied soul". Presumably this quantum-paradise-
ghost would learn to change direction at will, and interact with other
ghosts as well as with matter. Thus they have become gods.

See? That wasn't so hard. We even get deification thrown in for free.
Where's your precious science and logic now?