DETAILS OF LIFE AFTER DEATH
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From: " SNIP HECKLER>" on 14 Dec 2009 22:21 X-No-Archive: Yes On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:55:54 -0800
From: G=EMC^2 Glazier on 15 Dec 2009 12:07 Details after life after death One big "BLANK" Oi Ya I have been there Bert
From: bigfletch8 on 15 Dec 2009 21:31 On Dec 11, 10:49 pm, Zinnic <zeenr...(a)gate.net> wrote: > On Dec 9, 6:30 pm, George Hammond <Nowhe...(a)notspam.com> wrote: > > > > > > > LOG 12-9-09 THE DETAILS OF LIFE AFTER DEATH > > > Copyright December 2009, George Hammond > > > In a previous USENET post (above) I detailed how a short > > millisecond signal in the microtubule system of the brain at > > Froehlich s frequency could easily contain a year of human > > experience, and thus even though the bedside observer would > > see the person expire in a fraction of a second, the dearly > > departed would subjectively live on for a year in > > cyber-paradise despite his Frohlich-speed millisecond > > demise. > > I ve been thinking some more about the death stream > > download after talking to Stuart Hameroff by e-mail. > > Supposedly the death dream would be pre-recorded in a > > running-edit mode during your entire life, every hour, every > > second of every day. It would constantly be edited and > > distilled, sort of the same process that they use to cut and > > edit a Hollywood movie. This in fact, might even be the > > primary function of nocturnal dreaming. > > So this edited life after death scenario, or dream, is > > residing in the microtubule system of the brain ready to > > download in a few milliseconds at a moments notice should > > death occur. The question then arises as to why this dream > > would automatically download when you die. My answer to > > that is that it must be completely natural, that is a > > default mechanism of the death process itself. Supposedly, > > the death dream is created by a natural mechanism having to > > do with the growth deficit of the brain, and then when you > > die, this pent-up font of "flat space" reality, by the same > > token, just automatically bursts forth and floods the entire > > cytoskeleton of the brain. And this is what produces "life > > after death" so-called. > > The underlying idea here is that the well-known Secular > > Trend growth deficit causes a neuron shortage and therefore > > the brain cannot actually perceive "true reality", that is > > "flat subjective space" .. it can only perceive a "curved > > version" (truncation) of subjective space-time a "curved > > version" of reality as it were. However, our brain is able > > to detect that what we are seeing is not completely real, > > i.e. is curved rather than flat, so what it does, in some > > analog fashion or other, is compute the "flat space > > extrapolation" of what we actually see. Of course the > > microtubule system cannot present this extrapolation to the > > neuronal system because the neuronal system is not big > > enough to display it. But it remains "pent-up" or "latent" > > somewhere in the cytoskeleton, and through some process of > > subconscious mentation, dreaming etc., it gets composed and > > edited into what we are now calling "an afterlife dream > > world". > > Okay, that is how and why it gets composed. Now we have > > to address, how and why it downloads at death. Presumably, > > death occurs from the top down. That is, the neuronal > > system shuts down or "flat lines" first. And then begins > > the slower process of the disintegration of the > > cytoskeleton-microtubule system. My first intuition would > > be that the flat lining of the neuronal system is what > > triggers the afterlife download in the cytoskeleton. Perhaps > > for instance, the neuronal-cytoskeletal system is originally > > a "closed loop" feedback system and when the neuronal system > > flatlines at death the cytoskeleton system goes "open-loop" > > and this simply causes the cytoskeleton system to "dump" any > > heretofore undisplayed information into the entire > > cytoskeleton whereas previously it was negative feedback > > from the neuronal system that was truncating that > > information and keeping it in check, i.e. keeping it pent-up > > in the microtubule memory. That s one of certainly many > > possibilities. > > And I must add here, that this death dream signal may > > not only flood just the cytoskeleton of the brain, it could > > just as easily flood the cytoskeleton of the entire body > > since the entire cytoskeleton of the brain is interconnected > > by microwave gap junctions . This means that your entire > > body and your entire brain, your entire sensory apparatus, > > motor apparatus, and cognitive system would be experiencing > > this dream firsthand. It would in other words, be > > completely real! This is why the microtubule computer in > > the brain is sufficient to do the job of Tipler s > > "astronomical sized"computer". His computer was designed to > > synthesize a human being from scratch, while nature has the > > advantage of having the actual physical body in the form of > > the cytoskeleton actually present in the microtubule > > computer! This reduces the size of the necessary computer > > by a "double exponential" sized factor! And this literally > > brings the problem down to earth. > > > Serious intellectual commentary is invited, hecklers will be > > killfiled. > > ======================================== > > GEORGE HAMMOND'S PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE > > Primary sitehttp://webspace..webring.com/people/eg/george_hammond > > Mirror site > > http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com > > HAMMOND FOLK SONG by Casey Bennetto > > http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3 > > ======================================= > > Your small step in the physicalist world from neuronal networks to > cytoskeletons does not begin to address the leap of faith required to > cross over from the mundane to the imagined miracle of 'life' after > death. > After "flat" neuronal function transfers to spend a parsec as the > "curved reality" of cytoskeletal function, what then? > When the physical cytoskeleton disintegrates and rots, is the 'soul' > distilled from the ferment and condensed by some miraculous procecess > into pure disembodied spirit ? > Seems to me you still have some explaining to do! > Zinnic- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Im pleased you have finally found someone who you can have meaningful conversatations with. BOfL
From: bigfletch8 on 15 Dec 2009 21:47 On Dec 15, 6:07 pm, George Hammond <Nowhe...(a)notspam.com> wrote: > On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 19:53:49 -0800 (PST), darwinist > > > At any rate, let me outline what were up against. The > discovery of the world's first scientific proof of God is a > fait accompli. It is signed sealed and delivered and has > been published in the peer-reviewed literature.
From: Zinnic on 16 Dec 2009 17:04
On Dec 15, 8:31 pm, "bigflet...(a)gmail.com" <bigflet...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Dec 11, 10:49 pm,Zinnic<zeenr...(a)gate.net> wrote: > > > > > > > On Dec 9, 6:30 pm, George Hammond <Nowhe...(a)notspam.com> wrote: > > > > LOG 12-9-09 THE DETAILS OF LIFE AFTER DEATH > > > > Copyright December 2009, George Hammond > > > > In a previous USENET post (above) I detailed how a short > > > millisecond signal in the microtubule system of the brain at > > > Froehlich s frequency could easily contain a year of human > > > experience, and thus even though the bedside observer would > > > see the person expire in a fraction of a second, the dearly > > > departed would subjectively live on for a year in > > > cyber-paradise despite his Frohlich-speed millisecond > > > demise. > > > I ve been thinking some more about the death stream > > > download after talking to Stuart Hameroff by e-mail. > > > Supposedly the death dream would be pre-recorded in a > > > running-edit mode during your entire life, every hour, every > > > second of every day. It would constantly be edited and > > > distilled, sort of the same process that they use to cut and > > > edit a Hollywood movie. This in fact, might even be the > > > primary function of nocturnal dreaming. > > > So this edited life after death scenario, or dream, is > > > residing in the microtubule system of the brain ready to > > > download in a few milliseconds at a moments notice should > > > death occur. The question then arises as to why this dream > > > would automatically download when you die. My answer to > > > that is that it must be completely natural, that is a > > > default mechanism of the death process itself. Supposedly, > > > the death dream is created by a natural mechanism having to > > > do with the growth deficit of the brain, and then when you > > > die, this pent-up font of "flat space" reality, by the same > > > token, just automatically bursts forth and floods the entire > > > cytoskeleton of the brain. And this is what produces "life > > > after death" so-called. > > > The underlying idea here is that the well-known Secular > > > Trend growth deficit causes a neuron shortage and therefore > > > the brain cannot actually perceive "true reality", that is > > > "flat subjective space" .. it can only perceive a "curved > > > version" (truncation) of subjective space-time a "curved > > > version" of reality as it were. However, our brain is able > > > to detect that what we are seeing is not completely real, > > > i.e. is curved rather than flat, so what it does, in some > > > analog fashion or other, is compute the "flat space > > > extrapolation" of what we actually see. Of course the > > > microtubule system cannot present this extrapolation to the > > > neuronal system because the neuronal system is not big > > > enough to display it. But it remains "pent-up" or "latent" > > > somewhere in the cytoskeleton, and through some process of > > > subconscious mentation, dreaming etc., it gets composed and > > > edited into what we are now calling "an afterlife dream > > > world". > > > Okay, that is how and why it gets composed. Now we have > > > to address, how and why it downloads at death. Presumably, > > > death occurs from the top down. That is, the neuronal > > > system shuts down or "flat lines" first. And then begins > > > the slower process of the disintegration of the > > > cytoskeleton-microtubule system. My first intuition would > > > be that the flat lining of the neuronal system is what > > > triggers the afterlife download in the cytoskeleton. Perhaps > > > for instance, the neuronal-cytoskeletal system is originally > > > a "closed loop" feedback system and when the neuronal system > > > flatlines at death the cytoskeleton system goes "open-loop" > > > and this simply causes the cytoskeleton system to "dump" any > > > heretofore undisplayed information into the entire > > > cytoskeleton whereas previously it was negative feedback > > > from the neuronal system that was truncating that > > > information and keeping it in check, i.e. keeping it pent-up > > > in the microtubule memory. That s one of certainly many > > > possibilities. > > > And I must add here, that this death dream signal may > > > not only flood just the cytoskeleton of the brain, it could > > > just as easily flood the cytoskeleton of the entire body > > > since the entire cytoskeleton of the brain is interconnected > > > by microwave gap junctions . This means that your entire > > > body and your entire brain, your entire sensory apparatus, > > > motor apparatus, and cognitive system would be experiencing > > > this dream firsthand. It would in other words, be > > > completely real! This is why the microtubule computer in > > > the brain is sufficient to do the job of Tipler s > > > "astronomical sized"computer". His computer was designed to > > > synthesize a human being from scratch, while nature has the > > > advantage of having the actual physical body in the form of > > > the cytoskeleton actually present in the microtubule > > > computer! This reduces the size of the necessary computer > > > by a "double exponential" sized factor! And this literally > > > brings the problem down to earth. > > > > Serious intellectual commentary is invited, hecklers will be > > > killfiled. > > > ======================================== > > > GEORGE HAMMOND'S PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE > > > Primary sitehttp://webspace.webring.com/people/eg/george_hammond > > > Mirror site > > > http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com > > > HAMMOND FOLK SONG by Casey Bennetto > > > http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3 > > > ======================================= > > > Your small step in the physicalist world from neuronal networks to > > cytoskeletons does not begin to address the leap of faith required to > > cross over from the mundane to the imagined miracle of 'life' after > > death. > > After "flat" neuronal function transfers to spend a parsec as the > > "curved reality" of cytoskeletal function, what then? > > When the physical cytoskeleton disintegrates and rots, is the 'soul' > > distilled from the ferment and condensed by some miraculous procecess > > into pure disembodied spirit ? > > Seems to me you still have some explaining to do! > >Zinnic- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Im pleased you have finally found someone who you can have meaningful > conversatations with. > You mean like your conversation with George in your post at 8.47? |