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From: Turgut Durduran on 13 Sep 2009 06:53 On 2009-09-13, Dave Searles <searles(a)hoombah.nurt.bt.uk> wrote: >>>> No it won't. >>> Yes it will. As soon as someone hits C-c or C-x, kaboom! >> >> Why would I hit those? > > You, perhaps, would not. A normal computer user attempting to use emacs > as a normal text editor on the other hand would. I suppose you think they want to "copy" or "cut", well, you have already indicated once that it is desirable to have emacs behave like the rest of the software on my OS. Well, on my OS, I generally copy by "selecting" and paste by "middle button". So emacs acts as it should. In fact, a normal user this OS would know how to deal with that. If I were a windows user without the desire to learn something better when using emacs, I would have installed: http://ourcomments.org/Emacs/EmacsW32.html and be done with it. ugdc
From: Turgut Durduran on 13 Sep 2009 06:57 On 2009-09-13, Dave Searles <searles(a)hoombah.nurt.bt.uk> wrote: > Evan I wrote: >> Dave Searles <searles(a)hoombah.nurt.bt.uk> writes: >>> Evan I wrote: >>>> Turgut Durduran <ugdc(a)ugdc.org> writes: >>>> >>>>> On 2009-09-08, Alan Mackenzie <acm(a)muc.de> wrote: >>>>>>> It is not true. >>>>>> OK. Somehow, I had a feeling it wasn't. >>>>> I am not going to hunt for a windows or mac-OS based computer to >>>>> try it out but if I recall correctly from many years ago, it can >>>>> interact with the standard windows clipboard. >>>>> >>>> <snip> >>>> >>>> Not sure about windows but on Mac absolutely. >>> AFAIAA the Mac clipboard also lacks history, so either this is false, >>> or a certain other statement about emacs from the pro-emacs side was >>> false. >>> >>> Checkmate. >> >> Cute :) but in error > > No, it is not. Either the system clipboard has feature X, the emacs > clipboard lacks feature X, or the emacs clipboard is not the system > clipboard. do you consider MS-Office non-standard? Last time I used it, it had a history for its clipboard. > I don't know, I can't quickly find out (I'd have to install a unix OS > and emacs and figure them out enough to be able to run some tests, which > would take hours and gobs of disk space and require I take the risk of > repartitioning a drive I use without a backup -- no thanks) ohh. Well, "try using emacs first." > Tetris is not a text editor. Emacs is. No it is not. You have stated that earlier.
From: Turgut Durduran on 13 Sep 2009 06:58 On 2009-09-13, Dave Searles <searles(a)hoombah.nurt.bt.uk> wrote: > The beauty of it is I can do this without leaving a very small, > orthogonal set of commands What does "orthogonal set of commands" even mean? >; without learning tons of arcana or a > different and complex UI for every application I use Good thing emacs fits this well. ugdc
From: Turgut Durduran on 13 Sep 2009 07:01 On 2009-09-13, Dave Searles <searles(a)hoombah.nurt.bt.uk> wrote: > Usability, and further progress on the ongoing project of modernizing > its user interface for the 21st century. So maybe it will be fully > "caught up" to the contemporary state of the art in time for the dawn of > the 22nd. > Well, if you think emacs is gonna survive another century, you have already accepted that it is doing something quite right. And if you further think that it may have *some* of its current behavior while doing that, well, it is far ahead of the software examples you have given so far in this thread (notepad, Ms-word etc etc). ugdc
From: Turgut Durduran on 13 Sep 2009 07:05
On 2009-09-13, Dave Searles <searles(a)hoombah.nurt.bt.uk> wrote: >> >> A simple pocket knife is a poor but serviceable screwdriver, an expensive >> and brittle pry bar, and a mediocre hammer. > > We are discussing a text editor. It only needs to be good at one thing: > editing text. How about continuing to discuss emacs then? > Huh? We're discussing a text editor here. No, we are discussing "emacs". ugdc |