From: Dave Searles on
Turgut Durduran wrote:
> On 2009-09-10, Dave Searles <searles(a)hoombah.nurt.bt.uk> wrote:
>> David Kastrup wrote:
>>> The current state of Emacs is such that you can pretty much work with it
>>> without putting in learning time.
>> Clearly false; the first time you go to cut, copy, or paste anything, it
>> will blow up in your face.
>
> No it won't.

Yes it will. As soon as someone hits C-c or C-x, kaboom!
From: Dave Searles on
Turgut Durduran wrote:
> On 2009-09-10, Dave Searles <searles(a)hoombah.nurt.bt.uk> wrote:
>> Turgut Durduran wrote:
>>> On 2009-09-08, Alan Mackenzie <acm(a)muc.de> wrote:
>>>>> It is not true.
>>>> OK. Somehow, I had a feeling it wasn't.
>>> I am not going to hunt for a windows or mac-OS based computer to try it
>>> out but if I recall correctly from many years ago, it can interact with
>>> the standard windows clipboard.
>> Yet it demonstrably cannot, unless *another* of your statements was a lie.
>>
>> Checkmate.
>
> please demonstrate.

Already did! Try rereading what I wrote, and the relevant earlier
portions of the thread.

>>> The most interesting David Searles that I see is this one:
>>> http://cid-bf94e7f974ba1845.profile.live.com/
>>>
>>> I'm aries born, 5'11 light complextion straight as an arrow love my girls
>>> dark and inteligent.i'm a qualified chef and a selftaught barber which i
>>> currently pratice right now(taking a break from cooking).so holla at me.
>> That's not me. They aren't exactly uncommon first and surnames, so there
>> are probably dozens of people with my name out there.
>
> Then you are not the most interesting David Searles.

In your humble opinion.
From: Dave Searles on
Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> In comp.lang.lisp Dave Searles <searles(a)hoombah.nurt.bt.uk> wrote:
>> Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>
>>> By the way, does anybody know who this David Searles character is
>>> (other than himself, of course)?
>
>> How could I be anybody "other than myself"??? I am who I am.
>
> [personal attack deleted]

I will take that as your conceding that you still don't have a logical
argument against what I've said.

>> If you mean personal details, I'm tempted to say "none of your
>> beeswax", but I guess I might as well reveal a little: Lisp hacker,
>> fairly recently out of MIT, also software development using C (there
>> aren't many Lisp jobs out there).
>
> Ah, a recent CS graduate who knows it all.

What makes you think it was an *undergraduate* program at MIT I was
referring to?

> [rest of personal attacks deleted]

I will take that as your conceding that you still don't have a logical
argument against what I've said.
From: Dave Searles on
Jose A. Ortega Ruiz wrote:
> Dave Searles <searles(a)hoombah.nurt.bt.uk> writes:
>
>> How could I be anybody "other than myself"??? I am who I am. If you
>> mean personal details, I'm tempted to say "none of your beeswax", but
>> I guess I might as well reveal a little: Lisp hacker,
>
> If you don't mind my asking, i'm curious: what editor do you use for
> Lisp hacking?

That depends on the Lisp. For Clojure-hacking, NetBeans (the Clojure
plugin for NB is more mature than that for Eclipse). Otherwise, it
depends, but typically one or another programmer's editor for Windows.

For non-Lisp hacking, other modern IDEs, notably Eclipse.
From: Dave Searles on
Espen Vestre wrote:
> Dave Searles <searles(a)hoombah.nurt.bt.uk> writes:
>
>> How could I be anybody "other than myself"??? I am who I am. If you
>> mean personal details, I'm tempted to say "none of your beeswax", but
>> I guess I might as well reveal a little: Lisp hacker, fairly recently
>> out of MIT, also software development using C (there aren't many Lisp
>> jobs out there).
>
> Why not try to hack a little lisp instead of [personal attack deleted]

I will take that as your conceding that you still don't have a logical
argument against what I've said.

If you mean "why not hack a little lisp instead of argue here?":

I've been waiting for a couple of tools that have new versions out to
shake down and stabilize. You know how .0 versions are, I'm waiting for
the .1 bug-fix releases that inevitably swiftly follow (or the very
unlikely event of a while passing with no serious problems being
reported on the associated mailing-lists).

But even then I probably won't stop arguing here until people stop
personally attacking me. I certainly don't want to leave a post like
that sitting unaddressed. It might look to some like I don't disagree
with it if I do that.

> I'd download the free personal version of LispWorks, you can configure
> its editor to behave Windowish (it's a simple radio-button choice, no
> need to say M-x please-lobotomize-yourself)

There's some more of that same inflammatory and derogatory comparison
tendency.

It's quite a hypocritical bunch we have here, isn't it? They flame
anyone who criticizes emacs, yet have no qualms about calling every
other text editor "crippled", "inefficient", "lobotomized", or some
other epithet in a similar vein with every other breath or so. If the
users of every editor behaved likewise, it would be flamage without end,
until all of Usenet went up in smoke. Fortunately, most, like myself,
are somewhat more civil and tolerant, and the flames tend to burn
themselves out after a while since they're mainly coming from only one
side, the pro-emacs side.

> and when you grow up [rest of personal attacks deleted]

I will take that as your conceding that you still don't have a logical
argument against what I've said.
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