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From: Turgut Durduran on 10 Sep 2009 09:45 On 2009-09-10, Dave Searles <searles(a)hoombah.nurt.bt.uk> wrote: > David Kastrup wrote: >> The current state of Emacs is such that you can pretty much work with it >> without putting in learning time. > > Clearly false; the first time you go to cut, copy, or paste anything, it > will blow up in your face. No it won't. It acts like everything else. You ignored this before but there is no "standard".
From: Turgut Durduran on 10 Sep 2009 09:46 On 2009-09-10, Dave Searles <searles(a)hoombah.nurt.bt.uk> wrote: > Turgut Durduran wrote: >> On 2009-09-08, Alan Mackenzie <acm(a)muc.de> wrote: >>>> I find the use of "expectation" strange since he does not appear to want >>>> to try current versions of Emacs. Perhaps "preconceptions"? >>> He expected just to fire up the program and use it like anything else. >>> Either that, or he just wants a flaming thread. > > Perhaps instead of speculating about what I want, you should either ask > me or remain silent Alan? > >> I think the latter because he can fire up emacs and use it like anything >> else given that his example is to write a letter to his granny. > > Clearly false; as soon as an attempt is made to use the clipboard, if > not sooner, it will all go pear-shaped. > No. It behaves just like everything else. So far "standard" for you is a one OS. I apply the same rule. ugdc
From: Jose A. Ortega Ruiz on 10 Sep 2009 09:24 Dave Searles <searles(a)hoombah.nurt.bt.uk> writes: > How could I be anybody "other than myself"??? I am who I am. If you > mean personal details, I'm tempted to say "none of your beeswax", but > I guess I might as well reveal a little: Lisp hacker, If you don't mind my asking, i'm curious: what editor do you use for Lisp hacking? > fairly recently out of MIT, Did you have a chance there to discuss with GLS (one of the original Emacs implementers, as you probably know) the shortcomings that you perceive in Emacs? Thanks, jao -- Everyone can be taught to sculpt: Michelangelo would have had to be taught not to. So it is with great programmers. - Alan Perlis, Epigrams in Programing
From: Espen Vestre on 10 Sep 2009 10:29 Dave Searles <searles(a)hoombah.nurt.bt.uk> writes: > How could I be anybody "other than myself"??? I am who I am. If you > mean personal details, I'm tempted to say "none of your beeswax", but > I guess I might as well reveal a little: Lisp hacker, fairly recently > out of MIT, also software development using C (there aren't many Lisp > jobs out there). Why not try to hack a little lisp instead of making a fool of yourself? I'd download the free personal version of LispWorks, you can configure its editor to behave Windowish (it's a simple radio-button choice, no need to say M-x please-lobotomize-yourself), and when you grow up, you may want to change that to Emacs behaviour and maybe some day you'll understand why you're currently making a terrible fool of yourself, and you can come back here and discuss lisp hacking instead? -- (espen)
From: Turgut Durduran on 10 Sep 2009 10:35
On 2009-09-10, Dave Searles <searles(a)hoombah.nurt.bt.uk> wrote: >>> It is not true. >> >> OK. Somehow, I had a feeling it wasn't. > > And yet either it must be, or the claim that emacs has some kind of > multi-clipboard with history must have been a lie. > > Either way, a claim that one of you made is a lie. > > Checkmate. Excellent. Let me know who this imaginary character is that plays chess with you. In the mean time, try using emacs. |