Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: Smiler on 13 Jul 2008 22:23 "rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message news:a151dbac-e47c-4e4f-a64a-94c34c1894d8(a)26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com... On Jul 13, 8:43?am, Linda Fox <linda...(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: > On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 15:49:43 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > wrote: > > > > > > >On Jul 12, 8:25?am, Linda Fox <linda...(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: > >> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 07:20:29 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > >> wrote: > > >> >A two year old is learning to lie or tell the truth. ?If a two year > >> >old sees its parents lie all the time, then the two year old is going > >> >to do the same thing. > > >> Ho-kayyyy - tell us please, because we'd love to know, how a > >> two-year-old can tell its parents are lying when it does not know the > >> truth itself. Unless it's by watching the nose grow longer and longer. > >A two year old is concerned about what works. ?If the two year old > >sees that lying is more effective in getting results than telling the > >truth, then that is what the two year old is going to start doing. > >Atheists generally reward untruth. > > Right, now just go back and read again, a bit slower this time. How > does the two-year-old know - from the example of his elders - that > lying is more effective, when - are you still there? - he does not > yeat recognise it as lying? > > Linda ff > In the beginning man created god in his own image- Hide quoted text - > What you are claiming is that a two year old cannot tell if something is true or untrue. I take the position that a two year old is just as capable of discerning as anyone, but might have more of a tendency to try to say the answer he believes his parent wants to hear. ============================================= How many children do you have? Smiler, The godless one a.a.# 2279
From: Smiler on 13 Jul 2008 22:33 "Alex W." <ingilt(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:6du51lF49tuiU1(a)mid.individual.net... > > "Smiler" <Smiler(a)Joe.King.com> wrote in message > news:xodek.207779$312.89301(a)newsfe12.ams2... >> >> "rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message >> news:161c8f3b-3d55-45c6-aa2d-7825b08ebe28(a)t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... >> On Jul 11, 3:16 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...(a)b.c> wrote: >>> rbwinn wrote: >>> > On Jul 11, 1:44 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...(a)b.c> wrote: >>> >> rbwinn wrote: >>> >>> On Jul 10, 12:56?pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...(a)b.c> wrote: >>> >>>> Linda Fox wrote: >>> >>>>> On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 03:46:09 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn >>> >>>>> <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >>> >>>>> wrote: >>> >>>>>> The Atonement of Christ did not happen on the cross. ?It happened >>> >>>>>> in >>> >>>>>> the Garden of Gethsemane. ? >>> >>>>> Oh, bloody Mary mother of dog! Is THAT what they are teaching in >>> >>>>> your >>> >>>>> church? I'd stop going there if I were you. It goes completely >>> >>>>> against >>> >>>>> all Christian doctrine. But then I'm beginning to suspect that >>> >>>>> you're >>> >>>>> not a real Christian at all >>> >>>> Allegedly he's a mormon. The guys that built Las Vegas , with govt >>> >>>> money.. >>> >>>>> Linda ff- Hide quoted text - >>> >>>> - Show quoted text - >>> >>> I have never been to Las Vegas. Anyway, Las Vegas was built by >>> >>> organized crime and Howard Hughes. >>> >> Check your facts. >>> >>> > The facts are that Las Vegas was built by organized crime to take >>> > money away from construction workers who were working on Hoover Dam >>> > during the Depression. >>> > Robert B. Winn >>> >>> By Mormons >> >> No, by members of the Cosa Nostra. >> =============================== >> By Hogwarts' students using magic. >> > > It's the evil lair of Dr Evil .... Must be the work of Stan. (One of the alter-egos of MnM, Marshall Mathers III, etc.) Hey! They even called the main road "the STRIP"...pornography, ebil pornography. Smiler, The godless one a.a.# 2279
From: Smiler on 13 Jul 2008 22:38 "rbwinn" <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in message news:292cfda8-416d-4450-8f47-85cd758f9187(a)m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... On Jul 13, 8:44?am, Linda Fox <linda...(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: > On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 16:30:35 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > wrote: > > > > > > >On Jul 12, 7:29?am, Stan-O <bndsna...(a)aol.com> wrote: > >> On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 21:21:44 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > >> wrote: > > >> >> >You atheists seem to have a lot of trouble with the meanings of > >> >> >words. ?There was another atheist who seemed to believe that adult > >> >> >and > >> >> >adulterer meant the same thing. > >> >> >Robert B. Winn > > >> >> ...which is an old joke that you obviously didn't get. > > >> >It is a very foolish mistake. ?Although the two words look and sound > >> >similar, they mean very different things. > >> >Robert B. Winn > > >> I'd explain the meaning of "a play on words", but it would be like > >> pouring water on a rock and expecting it to sink in... > > >With atheists, it is not a play on words. ?They really believe that > >adulterers are the most mature adults. > > And that irony means "a bit like iron"? Oh, sorry, of course it > probably does, to you. > That is correct. I know what iron is. I work as a welder. ===================================== Whooooosh! How it missed the point (atop his head) I'll never know. Smiler, The godless one a.a.# 2279
From: Dogmantic Pyrrhonist (AKA Al) on 13 Jul 2008 23:35 On Jul 14, 12:10 pm, Stan-O <bndsna...(a)aol.com> wrote: > On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 14:43:18 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > wrote: > > >> >Well, you have not talked to any of your fellow atheists lately. > >> >Their idea is that if Hezekiah's tunnel exists, then Harry Potter has > >> >to be true because the train station in London is mentioned in Harry > >> >Potter. > > >> Your speculations are utter rubbish... > > >That is not speculation. That is what they actually said to me. > >Robert B. Winn > > Your idiotic posts say more about you than anything any atheist posts. Him and those others (Chung, Duck etc) do provide the single biggest advertisement of what's wrong with religion I've ever seen. They could loose a debate with a tape recording that pipes up and says "well, that's interesting" every couple of minutes. Al
From: hhyapster on 13 Jul 2008 23:42
On Jul 14, 1:12 am, "pba...(a)worldonline.nl" <pba...(a)worldonline.nl> wrote: > On 13 jul, 16:22, rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > > > > > On Jul 13, 12:10 am, The Natural Philosopher <a...(a)b.c> wrote: > > > > rbwinn wrote: > > > > On Jul 12, 7:29�am, Stan-O <bndsna...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > >> On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 21:21:44 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > > > >> wrote: > > > > >>>>> You atheists seem to have a lot of trouble with the meanings of > > > >>>>> words. ?There was another atheist who seemed to believe that adult and > > > >>>>> adulterer meant the same thing. > > > >>>>> Robert B. Winn > > > >>>> ...which is an old joke that you obviously didn't get. > > > >>> It is a very foolish mistake. �Although the two words look and sound > > > >>> similar, they mean very different things. > > > >>> Robert B. Winn > > > >> I'd explain the meaning of "a play on words", but it would be like > > > >> pouring water on a rock and expecting it to sink in... > > > > > With atheists, it is not a play on words. They really believe that > > > > adulterers are the most mature adults. > > > > Atheists don't believe anything. > > > > More lies from the Prince of Lies. > > > > Its amazing how much ore of an atheist I want to be, listening to you.. > > > Well, there you have it. Atheists don't believe anything, they don't > > do anything, and they don't think anything. It does not sound very > > exciting to me, but maybe it does to an atheist. > > Robert B. Winn- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven - > > > - Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven - > > Well. Atheist are not lying their butt off like you do. > Most of them believe in natural explanations, > most of them have a job, > and many of them are intelligent enough not to make as silly a claim > as to say someone else doesn't think anything. > > Your statement would be truth though if it was made about dead people. > But if all dead people are atheists, what would that mean for heaven > and hell? > > Think about it! > I am sure you have enough brains to understand, > I only doubt whether you will use them on this issue or perfer to keep > making silly statements > > Peter van Velzen > July 2008 > Amstelveen > The Netherlands That's where you are wrong, Peter. You think rbwinn got brain? OK, has a brain but without cells... But you do not know he has mental problem, which the scientists have not come up with any cure yet? |