Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: The Natural Philosopher on 14 Jul 2008 05:55 rbwinn wrote: > On Jul 13, 3:48 pm, The Natural Philosopher <a...(a)b.c> wrote: >> rbwinn wrote: >>> On Jul 13, 8:43�am, Linda Fox <linda...(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: >>>> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 15:49:43 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >>>> wrote: >>>>> On Jul 12, 8:25?am, Linda Fox <linda...(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: >>>>>> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 07:20:29 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> A two year old is learning to lie or tell the truth. ?If a two year >>>>>>> old sees its parents lie all the time, then the two year old is going >>>>>>> to do the same thing. >>>>>> Ho-kayyyy - tell us please, because we'd love to know, how a >>>>>> two-year-old can tell its parents are lying when it does not know the >>>>>> truth itself. Unless it's by watching the nose grow longer and longer. >>>>> A two year old is concerned about what works. �If the two year old >>>>> sees that lying is more effective in getting results than telling the >>>>> truth, then that is what the two year old is going to start doing. >>>>> Atheists generally reward untruth. >>>> Right, now just go back and read again, a bit slower this time. How >>>> does the two-year-old know - from the example of his elders - that >>>> lying is more effective, when - are you still there? - he does not >>>> yeat recognise it as lying? >>>> Linda ff >>>> In the beginning man created god in his own image- Hide quoted text - >>> What you are claiming is that a two year old cannot tell if something >>> is true or untrue. I take the position that a two year old is just as >>> capable of discerning as anyone, but might have more of a tendency to >>> try to say the answer he believes his parent wants to hear. >>> Robert B. Winn >> Is that why you believe in the Bible then? because that's what YOUR >> parents wanted to hear?. I do feel very sorry for you.- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > Well, actually I did not start reading the Bible until I was locked > up. I was in jail that time. They did not allow Bibles in the > psychiatric ward, but by then I knew enough about it to keep out of > the atheism. Yep. Generally a 'religious conversion' is the quickest way out of an American jail. > Robert B. Winn
From: Stan-O on 14 Jul 2008 06:32 On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 23:52:35 +0100, The Natural Philosopher <a(a)b.c> wrote: >> That is correct. I know what iron is. I work as a welder. >> Robert B. Winn >Welding is a myth. Its not mentioned in the bible at all, therefore it >cant exist. Which seems to make you a liar. He still won't get it...
From: rbwinn on 14 Jul 2008 08:38 On Jul 13, 1:26�pm, John Baker <nu...(a)bizniz.net> wrote: > On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 14:43:18 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > wrote: > > > > > > >On Jul 13, 8:46?am, Stan-O <bndsna...(a)aol.com> wrote: > >> On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 07:25:11 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > >> wrote: > > >> >> > ============================================ > >> >> > Harry Potter left from platform 9 &3/4 to go to Hogwarts wizard school. > >> >> > That makes as much sense as you wholly babble quotations. > > >> >> well at lest its more amusing to read, and no one require that you > >> >> believe it to be literally true.. > > >> >Well, you have not talked to any of your fellow atheists lately. > >> >Their idea is that if Hezekiah's tunnel exists, then Harry Potter has > >> >to be true because the train station in London is mentioned in Harry > >> >Potter. > > >> Your speculations are utter rubbish... > > >That is not speculation. �That is what they actually said to me. > > I don't doubt that a few atheists *have* said something like that to > you, Bobby. And I'm not a bit surprised to see that you completely > missed the point. > Well, I was not surprised to learn that atheists regard Harry Potter as some kind of superhero who is going to defeat Christianity. Robert B. Winn
From: rbwinn on 14 Jul 2008 08:41 On Jul 13, 6:28�pm, "Smiler" <Smi...(a)Joe.King.com> wrote: > "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > > news:fc9d57b1-a5d8-4dea-b10c-2de186d77c39(a)m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com... > On Jul 12, 5:43?pm, "Smiler" <Smi...(a)Joe.King.com> wrote: > > > > > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > > >news:43c4adf8-d379-4a72-815c-bc35c1c84eaf(a)b1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... > > On Jul 11, 5:04?pm, "Smiler" <Smi...(a)Joe.King.com> wrote: > > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > > > >news:6ebcae55-3c20-4ea3-960e-25f802c31860(a)s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com.... > > > On Jul 10, 8:51?pm, "Smiler" <Smi...(a)Joe.King.com> wrote: > > > > > "rbwinn" <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote in message > > > > >news:1b629e70-db18-4208-a3da-4381dcebabb4(a)p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com... > > > > On Jul 8, 8:45?pm, ben_dolan_...(a)reet.com (Ben Dolan) wrote: > > > > > > rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote: > > > > > > There were some atheists who said Harry Potter went on the train > > > > > > from > > > > > > London to wizard's school. > > > > > > And once again, child, you have confused fiction with reality... > > > > > Harry Potter is fiction. ?The woman who wrote the books said it was > > > > fiction. ?I know this may come as a shock to atheists. > > > > =================================== > > > > > The bible is also fiction. We don't even know who wrote it. > > > > I know this may come as a shock to christians. > > > > Get over it. > > > > No, Smiler, the Bible tells about the construction of Hezekiah's > > > tunnel. ? Didn't we discuss this before. > > > ================================ > > > And the Harry Potter books tell us about Kings Cross station and London. > > > Both the Harry Potter books and the bible are fiction. > > > Get over it. > > > > Smiler, > > > If you want to believe that the Bible is fiction, it seems to me that > > you are free to believe that the Bible is fiction. ?I will tell you > > what. ?Why don't you decide for yourself what you believe, and I will > > decide for myself what I believe? ?Does this seem unfair to you? > > ============================================== > > Not unfair if you keep your stupid beliefs out of a.a. > > > Smiler, > > The godless one > > a.a.# 2279- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > As I said, take sci.physics and sci.physics relativity out of the > header. > ==================================== > That won't stop your stupid comments from appearing in a.a., will it. > You take a.a. out of your header. > Think about it, Smiler. I am not going to go to alt.atheism. I have no interest in atheists. Robert B. Winn
From: rbwinn on 14 Jul 2008 08:47
On Jul 13, 7:10�pm, Stan-O <bndsna...(a)aol.com> wrote: > On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 14:43:18 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> > wrote: > > >> >Well, you have not talked to any of your fellow atheists lately. > >> >Their idea is that if Hezekiah's tunnel exists, then Harry Potter has > >> >to be true because the train station in London is mentioned in Harry > >> >Potter. > > >> Your speculations are utter rubbish... > > >That is not speculation. �That is what they actually said to me. > >Robert B. Winn > > Your idiotic posts say more about you than anything any atheist posts. I said a long time ago that if atheists do not want to believe Hezekiah's tunnel exists, they are free to believe it does not. That will not change reality, but they are free to believe whatever they want to believe. Robert B. Winn |