Does God need to prove He exists?
in [Physics]
|
From: Brian E. Clark on 14 Jul 2008 17:25 In article <4d2a74pf351she9f40vri1ku32c7s40a9j@ 4ax.com>, Antares 531 said... > Fulfillment of prophecies is the most convincing "evidence" for the > reliability of the Bible, Most convincing of all are those prophecies written after the events they predict. -- ----------- Brian E. Clark
From: Antares 531 on 14 Jul 2008 17:31 On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 05:57:14 -0700, DanielSan <danielsan(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > (snip) > >Antares 531 wrote: >> >> This mortal phase of our existence is temporary, and is primarily a >> means for learning about sin and rebellion. We learn jointly and >> separately about sin and rebellion, and when we've moved on to >> immortal existence we should never want to go back and explore it any >> further. Gordon > >There is no evidence of this "immortal existence", is there? > Daniel, there is no objective proof, and the only source of evidence is the Bible, but this can be rejected if one chooses to do so. The problem reduces to one of ferreting out the basic information given in the Bible and checking this against our reasonably well understood scientific information. There is no conflict between science and the Bible except in the minds of those who don't adequately understand one or the other or both of these sources of information. The best approach I can suggest is to learn about quantum entanglements and Superstring-Membrane theory (SSM). The information provided in these two subject areas lends a lot of support to the "evidence" provided in the Bible. As a starter, let me suggest reading Brian Clegg's book, The God Effect. ISBN 978-0-312-34341-5 This is a very well written book on quantum entanglement phenomenon. It is a verbal discussion, not a mathematics/physics text format. This book is easy for anyone with a fundamental education to understand. The cover jacket, inside the front cover, reads; What is entanglement: It's a connection between quantum particles, the building blocks of the universe. Once two particles are entangled, a change to one of them is reflected - instantly - in the other, be they in the same lab or light-years apart. So counterintuitive is this phenomenon and its implications that Einstein himself called it "spooky" and thought that it would lead to the downfall of quantum theory. Yet scientists have since discovered that quantum entanglement, the "God Effect," was one of Einstein's few - and perhaps one of his greatest - mistakes. Check with your local library and see if they have a copy of this book. It is worth reading, and I am firmly convinced that the information and ideas discussed in this and other such books overlaps and corroborates the information given us in the Bible. Gordon
From: Brian E. Clark on 14 Jul 2008 17:32 In article <6deimgF26qflU2(a)mid.individual.net>, Alex W. said... > Also consider that when it comes to non-sexual acts of creation, the male of > our species does appear to have the edge. Um, sure, in misogynistic societies, males have an edge. Few women in the past had the opportunities of, say, Ada Lovelace. Still, I've always wanted to host a horror-writing grudge match between Mary Shelley and H.P. Lovecraft. :) -- ----------- Brian E. Clark
From: Stan-O on 14 Jul 2008 17:41 On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 05:54:11 -0700, DanielSan <danielsan(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >> I said a long time ago that if atheists do not want to believe >> Hezekiah's tunnel exists, they are free to believe it does not. That >> will not change reality, but they are free to believe whatever they >> want to believe. > >The existence of Hezekiah's Tunnel is irrelevant to the veracity of the >book it is mentioned in. > >http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/68/HezekiahTunnel.jpg > >Now, can you please provide the post where an atheist said that, if >Hezekiah's Tunnel exists, than Harry Potter has to be true because the >train station in London is mentioned in Harry Potter? He can't. All he can do is regurgitate what he *thinks* he read.
From: Linda Fox on 14 Jul 2008 17:42
On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 22:36:28 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote: >Well, then I would suspect that you are not going to be upset when >your teenager does the same thing to you because you do not know >anything and cannot tell when your teenager is lying. But what is >going to happen if your teenager makes a mistake and gets caught >lying? >That is where the real test of it all will come. Bit late for that, m'dear. My two "teenagers" are now 30 and 31. And they told little white lies from time to time, but they were brought up to know the difference between little harmless ones ("Mummy's gone out shopping" and "the dog ate my homework") and the big ones that just lead to further convolutions and end up hurting people, and to the best of my knowledge they don't indulge in that sort. Linda ff In the beginning man created god in his own image |