Does God need to prove He exists?
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From: Free Lunch on 3 Aug 2008 12:11 On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 08:05:34 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote in alt.atheism: >On Aug 2, 8:54?pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: >> On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 23:40:30 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote >> in alt.atheism: >> >> >> >> >> >> >On Aug 1, 8:29?am, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >> >> rbwinn wrote: >> >> > On Jul 31, 8:56 pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >> >> >> rbwinn wrote: >> >> >> >>>>>> Why don't we just wait for him before judging them then? >> >> >>>>>> I happen to think that if anyone needs judging it is the liars and >> >> >>>>>> hypocrites. But you don't see me campaigning to remove their human >> >> >>>>>> rights. >> >> >>>>> Well, yes, I do. Like other atheists you campaign for abortion, >> >> >>>>> which removes the right to live of the people who are killed. >> >> >>>>> Robert B. Winn >> >> >>>> Please show me evidence that I've campaigned for abortion. Because >> >> >>>> that's a flat out lie. And is that your best effort at demonising >> >> >>>> atheists? >> >> >>>> Al- Hide quoted text - >> >> >>>> - Show quoted text - >> >> >>> Atheists have caused more abortions than any other group of people. >> >> >> So, you can't show evidence where atheists (like Al) have campaigned for >> >> >> abortion. You have lied. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> > Josef Stalin was an atheist like Al. ?While Josef Stalin was dictator >> >> > of the Soviet Union, the number of abortions in Russia increased to >> >> > about five per woman. >> >> > In the People's Republic of China, women who have had one child are >> >> > required by the state to abort any children conceived after the first >> >> > child is born. >> >> >> So, you have lied. >> >> >No, I did not lie. >> >> You lie to us all the time. This was one such example.- Hide quoted text - >> > >So you are claiming that abortions in Russia did not increase while >Josef Stalin was dictator of that country. That is not the lie that you were pointed to.
From: Ben Dolan on 3 Aug 2008 14:32 DanielSan <danielsan(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: >>>>> So, you were a killer, helping with a tool that was used to >>>>> destroy people. >>>> Well, no, it was used to save the lives of pilots. ?A lot of them >>>> would have died if I had not been keeping the radar working. >>> Pilots who ended up on bombing raids? >> Pilots who were bombing North Vietnam every day. > So, you admit to helping destroyers of human life. "I love the smell of hypocrisy in the morning..." So indeed he is, by his own admission, a murderer of innocent women and children. I don't know why he wastes his time on the Jesus bullshit because it's clear he's going to hell when he dies. There's no other fate for people like him.
From: Antares 531 on 3 Aug 2008 14:56 On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 11:32:47 -0700, ben_dolan_III(a)reet.com (Ben Dolan) wrote: >DanielSan <danielsan(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>>>> So, you were a killer, helping with a tool that was used to >>>>>> destroy people. > >>>>> Well, no, it was used to save the lives of pilots. ?A lot of them >>>>> would have died if I had not been keeping the radar working. > >>>> Pilots who ended up on bombing raids? > >>> Pilots who were bombing North Vietnam every day. > >> So, you admit to helping destroyers of human life. > >"I love the smell of hypocrisy in the morning..." > >So indeed he is, by his own admission, a murderer of innocent women and >children. I don't know why he wastes his time on the Jesus bullshit >because it's clear he's going to hell when he dies. There's no other >fate for people like him. > Ben, what do you do for a living or as a hobby? Are you certain that no spin-off effects from anything you've ever done have resulted in some person being killed or injured? Are those who assemble, sell or service automobiles also murderers? Automobile accidents do kill people, regularly. When I was a kid, a neighbor left a gate open and his saddle horse wandered out into a nearby road. A fellow driving a convertible came along late that night and slammed into the horse, killing the horse and the driver. Did this make my neighbor a murderer? Gordon
From: rbwinn on 3 Aug 2008 17:53 On Aug 3, 7:58�am, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 07:38:42 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote > in alt.atheism: > >> >>> to do anything for men that they can do for themselves. > >> >> You presume to speak for God? > > >> > I absolutely do. > > >> I'll make sure that God knows that you took it upon yourself to speak > >> for Him. > > >Hebrews 5:1 �For every high priest taken from among men is ordained > >for men in things pertaining to God, that he may offer both gifts and > >sacrifices for sins: > >2 �Who can have compassion on the ignorant, and on them that are out > >of the way; for that he himself also is compassed with infirmity. > >3 And by reason hereof he ought, as for the people, so also for > >himself, to offer for sins. > >4 �And no man taketh this honor unto himself, but he that is called of > >God, as was Aaron. > > God didn't say that.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - God did say that. Robert B. Winn
From: rbwinn on 3 Aug 2008 18:24
On Aug 3, 8:12�am, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > rbwinn wrote: > > On Aug 2, 8:53 pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > >> On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 00:08:55 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote > >> in alt.atheism: > > >>> On Aug 1, 2:30?pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote: > >>>> rbwinn wrote: > >> ... > > >>>>> Discuss it with John after the resurrection. > >>>> No proof of this alleged "resurrection", is there? > >>> Well, actually there is. The apostles were witnesses of the > >>> resurrected Christ on two separate occasions. > >> No evidence backs up your claim. > > > Well, I could send you a copy of the Bible if you want one. > > I have a Bible. �There's no evidence in there to back up your claim. > John 20:19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you. John 21:9 As soon then as they were come to land, they saw a fire of coals there, and fish laid thereon, and bread. 10 Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now caught. 11 Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there were so many, yet was not the net broken. 12Jesus saith unto them Come and dine, And none of the disciples durst ask him , Who art thou? knowing that it was the Lord. 13 Jesus then cometh , and taketh bread, and giveth them, and fish likewise. 14 This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his disciples, after that he was risen from the dead. Robert B. Winn |