From: Free Lunch on
On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 15:58:25 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwinn3(a)juno.com> wrote
in alt.atheism:

>On Aug 3, 8:54?am, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote:
>> On Sun, 3 Aug 2008 07:50:37 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <rbwi...(a)juno.com> wrote
>> in alt.atheism:
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>> >On Aug 2, 7:23?pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> >> rbwinn wrote:
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>> >> >> The word in question is "egkuos". This word can be defined as:
>>
>> >> >> swelling inside, i.e. pregnant -- great with child.
>>
>> >> >> You are using "great with child" and assuming that's what the writer of
>> >> >> Luke meant. Not sure how you get that, actually. Most people today
>> >> >> would use the word "pregnant", not the phrase "great with child".
>>
>> >> > Well, what you are saying is that you believe that Luke was so feeble
>> >> > minded that he would have believed there was something other than a
>> >> > child in the womb of a pregnant woman. ? Nothing he wrote would
>> >> > indicate that he was feeble minded.
>>
>> >> No, I'm not saying that at all.
>>
>> >Well, you absolutely are. ?You regard me as so stupid that you think
>> >you can convince me that a pregnant woman does not have a child in her
>> >womb. ?Why would you treat Luke any different?
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>The discussion was whether a pregnant woman has a child in her womb.
>You claimed she did not.

I never claimed anything, but the facts are that both in science and law
a child becomes a child at birth. Your delusions to the contrary do not
change reality.
From: rbwinn on
On Aug 3, 11:32�am, ben_dolan_...(a)reet.com (Ben Dolan) wrote:
> DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote:
> >>>>> So, you were a killer, helping with a tool that was used to
> >>>>> destroy people.
> >>>> Well, no, it was used to save the lives of pilots. ?A lot of them
> >>>> would have died if I had not been keeping the radar working.
> >>> Pilots who ended up on bombing raids?
> >> Pilots who were bombing North Vietnam every day.
> > So, you admit to helping destroyers of human life.
>
> "I love the smell of hypocrisy in the morning..."
>
> So indeed he is, by his own admission, a murderer of innocent women and
> children. I don't know why he wastes his time on the Jesus bullshit
> because it's clear he's going to hell when he dies. There's no other
> fate for people like him.

So your idea is that all people who have served in militaries of any
countries are going to hell. I guess you do not agree with Tom Brokaw
about the greatest generation.
Robert B. Winn
From: rbwinn on
On Aug 3, 2:53�pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote:
> rbwinn wrote:
> > On Aug 3, 7:47 am, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote:

> >>> 3 And by reason hereof he ought, as for the people, so also for
> >>> himself, to offer for sins.
> >>> 4 And no man taketh this honor unto himself, but he that is called of
> >>> God, as was Aaron.
> >> Yeah, you might want to read your Bible again. Did God qualify you to
> >> speak for Him as he did for Moses in Exodus 3 and 4, Samuel in 1 Samuel
> >> 3, or Isaiah, Jeremiah, and Ezekiel in Isaiah 6, Jeremiah 1, and Ezekiel
> >> 2, respectively?
>
> >> Did He?
> > Yes.
>
> God told me to tell you to stop lying. �He told me that you're breaking
> a commandment and each time you do so, you further cement your place in
> hell.
>
> He told me to think about your actions and how to proceed in the future.
>
Well, no, that was not God. If God has ever given you any personal
revelation in your life, it would pertain only to your life, not to
mine.
Your claim of receiving personal revelation for my life shows you to
be a false prophet.
Robert B. Winn
From: DanielSan on
rbwinn wrote:
> On Aug 3, 11:32�am, ben_dolan_...(a)reet.com (Ben Dolan) wrote:
>> DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> So, you were a killer, helping with a tool that was used to
>>>>>>> destroy people.
>>>>>> Well, no, it was used to save the lives of pilots. ?A lot of them
>>>>>> would have died if I had not been keeping the radar working.
>>>>> Pilots who ended up on bombing raids?
>>>> Pilots who were bombing North Vietnam every day.
>>> So, you admit to helping destroyers of human life.
>> "I love the smell of hypocrisy in the morning..."
>>
>> So indeed he is, by his own admission, a murderer of innocent women and
>> children. I don't know why he wastes his time on the Jesus bullshit
>> because it's clear he's going to hell when he dies. There's no other
>> fate for people like him.
>
> So your idea is that all people who have served in militaries of any
> countries are going to hell. I guess you do not agree with Tom Brokaw
> about the greatest generation.

Jesus told us to love our enemies, not hate them (Matthew 5:43), not
kill them.


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From: DanielSan on
rbwinn wrote:
> On Aug 3, 2:53�pm, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> rbwinn wrote:
>>> On Aug 3, 7:47 am, DanielSan <daniel...(a)speakeasy.net> wrote:
>
>>>>> 3 And by reason hereof he ought, as for the people, so also for
>>>>> himself, to offer for sins.
>>>>> 4 And no man taketh this honor unto himself, but he that is called of
>>>>> God, as was Aaron.
>>>> Yeah, you might want to read your Bible again. Did God qualify you to
>>>> speak for Him as he did for Moses in Exodus 3 and 4, Samuel in 1 Samuel
>>>> 3, or Isaiah, Jeremiah, and Ezekiel in Isaiah 6, Jeremiah 1, and Ezekiel
>>>> 2, respectively?
>>>> Did He?
>>> Yes.
>> God told me to tell you to stop lying. �He told me that you're breaking
>> a commandment and each time you do so, you further cement your place in
>> hell.
>>
>> He told me to think about your actions and how to proceed in the future.
>>
> Well, no, that was not God. If God has ever given you any personal
> revelation in your life, it would pertain only to your life, not to
> mine.
> Your claim of receiving personal revelation for my life shows you to
> be a false prophet.

No. He told me that you were lying. It's not a personal revelation of
your life. It is an observation of what you are doing openly.


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